DAC AD1862: Almost THT, I2S input, NOS, R-2R

I am planning on using the AD1865 with tube out put,what value should the I/V resistor be?
Is it 4mA the DAC outputs?
I read in the datasheet that is has an internal I/V converter is it a good idea to use it instead?
As Vunce mentioned output current is +/-1mA. This is similar to AD1862. Value of the IV resistor depends on your tube stage and the output level you are aiming for. Look at designs tagged in post #1 or even better, look for the boards designed by Michelag, since it has been proven to work nice.
 
100ohm you're good to go with my (well, grunf's) tube output stage. Look back, I uploaded a Gerber (I think I'm going update it since I forgot the pads for screws, otherwise it remains the same) and the schematic with it's PSU.
It is by far the best sounding piece (but with ad1862) that I ever built.
You can try reducing that 100R, let's say to 75R and see if it sounds better. I think that even 50R should not be a problem. Normally you will have a lower voltage at the output.
 

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Yes, difference is in cents of thd %
Not only in THD, but also that the AD1862 sees a lower impedance at its current output (ideally it would be 0R).
This is why grounded grid circuits are better but they also have their drawbacks.
For me in that case the best is Ei 6HM5 with amplification greater than 70 times and the input impedance is below 10R. EC86 would also be a good choice, but I've never tried it.
 
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You really don't need 2vrms on output with a preamp in line, unless you want to drive amp directly (which is still too much if you use class D monsters). Lower load on iout will always be better. Since this is diy, really just look at your own system and how much gain you actually need, and apply accordingly.
 
Not only in THD, but also that the AD1862 sees a lower impedance at its current output (ideally it would be 0R).
This is why grounded grid circuits are better but they also have their drawbacks.
For me in that case the best is Ei 6HM5 with amplification greater than 70 times and the input impedance is below 10R. EC86 would also be a good choice, but I've never tried it.
@grunf Is this the circuit you used? For C1, 1000uf... what type of cap do you use?
Would the D3A in triode mode (mu 70) be good enough for the grounded grid circuit?
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Not 0R or you can not convert curent into voltage, no?. Let say fw m Ohms at least.

D3A, I was said you need at least to match both and it is candidate to oscillation if you take not great cares.

Input at cathodes are said to sound not as good as grid with I/V, no ? Am I wrong ?
 
by the hell, why going with ad1865 when having better chips like the ad1862, tda1541a or pcm 56/58, pcm 1702, ????

The only advantage of a standalone chip is imho to make it starground routing,not classical plain ground layer seen from a EMC/EMI point of view, am I wrong ?
 
@grunf Is this the circuit you used? For C1, 1000uf... what type of cap do you use?
Would the D3A in triode mode (mu 70) be good enough for the grounded grid circuit?
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that's the old version for my DAC, here's the new one for AD1862
For C3(C1) put two UES1E102MHM in parallel with a good polypropylene cap.
I'm not sure that D3A is a good idea for a grounded grid, it's easier to do it with EC86,6S4P,6HM5... or even ECC88.
 

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@zoom777 waiting for Mouser order so I can build up the DAC boards.

by the hell, why going with ad1865 when having better chips like the ad1862, tda1541a or pcm 56/58, pcm 1702, ????

The only advantage of a standalone chip is imho to make it starground routing,not classical plain ground layer seen from a EMC/EMI point of view, am I wrong ?

Why not try them? Cheap and easy to find. Easy to use - only 5V supplies. Some people I trust say it's worth a listen, so is the PCM58 apparently. AD1865 is in the ranking as best multibit DAC.

20bit vs 18bit 😉 If I can I will try the lot, Miro has essentially developed a platform to plug in different DACs. PCM1704 is the hardest to find as legit for a sensible price.

Did you not like the 1865?
 
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