Best Compression Drivers today 2022?

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What kind of horn/waveguide was the Axi used with ?
Look at a few other forums too, including this. And you will find info on Klipsch K-402 / AXI 2050 combination.
As i read Klipsch's document at least, there is still a preference for the TAD 4002.
So all that modern "Engineering" and marketing and hype, to be beaten by a 50-year-old compression driver. 🙄

The AXI is a monster of a Mid range compression driver, it's special trait is it's extension on the low end, quite the opposite of the 4002.
Which is natural with a 7" TI diaphragm. Again the laws of physics apply.
 
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Ladies and gentlemen,
the very nice thing about Celestion drivers is the Celestion horn wizard website here: https://celestion-horn.netlify.app/
here you can get a first impression what the Axi2050 will do in a horn with a size like the estimated size of mid high horn of the Klipsch Jubilee speaker
Jubilee-Horn-Sim-Capture.JPG with this horn mouth sizes a coaxial mounted bullet super tweeter will improve the performance from 6000 to 20000 Hz, here an example for such a thing Midrange-horn-coaxial-bullet-tweeter example-Capture.JPG here the super tweeter is a Visaton TL16H
 
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@MRJAZZ - i have made some experiments with this and came to this final conclusion for my budget - there may be other conclusions for some cost no object approaches like the TAD compression drivers with the fabulous beryllium diaphragms. Some pics first
Juli-2023-HO-Stereo-Setup-Capture.JPGJuli-2023-HO-Stereo-Setup-L-Capture.JPGJuli-2023-HO-Stereo-Setup-R-Capture.JPGJuli-2023-HO-Stereo-Setup-L-Back-Capture.JPGJuli-2023-HO-Stereo-Setup-R-Back-Capture.JPG
I have tried for a short period to couple the TL16H Visaton super tweeter with the 16 inch tractrix woodhorn - it did not work well here one pic i found in my archive, but not a good one
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although the measurements wasn't bad the sound wasn't satisfying
FG-SLOB-SW-Midbass-Midrangehorm-Highrangehorn-Capture.JPG
now the setup is
20 - 85 Hz SLOB mounted 21 inch SW
85 - 170 Hz L / R side mounted 15 inch kickbass woofer
170 - 340 Hz Sonido SFR 200 alnico custom driver with 16 inch waveguide
340 - 3400 HZ B & C DCM 414 with tractrix wood horn 16 inch
3400 - 20000 Hz 18sound NSD1095N with tractrix 5 inch woodhorn
not the single drivers are only important, all the system must fit together in 5 way multiway stereo setup
i posted some measurements earlier https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/best-compression-drivers-today-2022.382609/post-7002834
i will work in September on some new measurements for the current 5 way stereo setup

hope it helps, Stefano
 
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I have used old JBL 075 alnico bullet tweeters from time to time to reinforce the top of both altec 604-8Gs and Altec A5 VOT. Probably not optimal, but I own a pair. I also have a pair of ESS AMTs wich I have not tested yet. Have been tinking of getting som altec or gpa biflex speakers to put into altec 620 cabinet clones and use the AMT to reinforce the top.
 
I really like the Limmer 021 for this purpose - for me the best "small" 1" horn available. When only used at very high frequencies you can for sure find something smaller.
DE360 really reminded me to the sound of a HiFi ring radiator - as it is one, just more powerful. This resonant free sound at high frequencies. Soft domes tend to add "something" there. I also worked with BMS drivers for years but the harder membrane of the B&C seem to have benefits at high freqeuncies.

I did a project with DE10 long time ago but discard it. HF was good but I don't think it's up to the DE360.
But NEVER trust such hearsay stories with years in between listening - I'm afraid you have to test yourself for a real comparison 😉
 
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aslo up 8/10K we don't really need a horn , i tend to prefer them without for this task 🙂
You should still have a waveguide for a smooth transition to 90 degrees (baffle) or more (as with Le Cleach round-overs).

-it’s not really for “loading” the driver, rather done to “smooth-out” the diffraction ripple some (for reduced narrow-band “peeking”).
 
I have tried for a short period to couple the TL16H Visaton super tweeter with the 16 inch tractrix woodhorn - it did not work well here one pic i found
although the measurements wasn't bad the sound wasn't satisfying
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now the setup is
20 - 85 Hz SLOB mounted 21 inch SW
85 - 170 Hz L / R side mounted 15 inch kickbass woofer
170 - 340 Hz Sonido SFR 200 alnico custom driver with 16 inch waveguide
340 - 3400 HZ B & C DCM 414 with tractrix wood horn 16 inch
3400 - 20000 Hz 18sound NSD1095N with tractrix 5 inch woodhorn
not the single drivers are only important, all the system must fit together in 5 way multiway stereo setup
i posted some measurements earlier https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/best-compression-drivers-today-2022.382609/post-7002834
i will work in September on some new measurements for the current 5 way stereo setup

hope it helps, Stefano

Nice to see 5-way multi-ways like this. Big fun ime.
What kind of xovers are you using?