Not that one, but one with a larger horn that provides good support down to lower frequencies with similar technique would be able to do the job i.m.h.o.
It's easier to fake a large room in a small space than the other way around. But one has to wonder/decide if you want that kind of SPL level or the sensation it gives.
More direct sound vs indirect will get you half way there, with a very dynamic speaker, but you'd still have to fake the space. You'd need lots of treatment though.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...he-last-twenty-years.8021/page-16#post-197385
That sort of thing... Enveloping is not a quality available in a small acoustic space, but one could either use multichannel upmixing or use IR reverb from real spaces or other reverb tools to mimic this behavior. Kill (absorb) all first reflections first. Read lots of material from David Griesinger to get an idea how it works. (scroll down that page for lots of papers on this subject)
You could start with the current speakers, add room treatment and ambience channels and experiment. Treat the room + speakers as a system. That's where the MEH type of speaker comes in handy.
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That sort of thing... Enveloping is not a quality available in a small acoustic space, but one could either use multichannel upmixing or use IR reverb from real spaces or other reverb tools to mimic this behavior. Kill (absorb) all first reflections first. Read lots of material from David Griesinger to get an idea how it works. (scroll down that page for lots of papers on this subject)
You could start with the current speakers, add room treatment and ambience channels and experiment. Treat the room + speakers as a system. That's where the MEH type of speaker comes in handy.
thanks, I’ll check the work of David.
Funny that I never stumbled on the MEH technique before, google doesn’t really provide information about it either.
on a second note, I listened to the TL2 yesterday with the impressions of the concert still relatively fresh in my mind and boy, those speaker deliver on dynamic! I am complaining on a very high Niveau
I always wanted to visit Hamburg and especially visit the Steinway factory. I would have applied for a job on the spot!
Talking about big places reminds me of the time me and my wife searched for a new house and stumbled on a villa near Freiburg. It was for sale for around 1,8M (way way above our budget) but we couldn’t resist and visited. On entering I knew it’s a lost case, the place was huge! With 380sqm! the best was a single room, 70sqm with beautiful curved high ceiling (highest point 5m). It was an indoor swimming pool… I would have build a subwoofer of that pool and make the ultimate listening hall… a dream indeed🙂
Maybe Yamaha GF-1, fully active is really nice for dynamics
But thats also music problem, no one really makes a mix that could achieve full realism
BTW, look what a friend just found sitting there in a tattoo shop in Japan, how cool is that!
Since the hype around listening bars happened—Resident Advisor for example created a mini series of videos, available from youtube—there spawned some audio-centered music bars in my city. But despite using large horn speaker systems, it's still much more related to classical DJ-ing and not comparable to the Japanese audio culture—sadly so. On top, I question the quality of their system. In short, nothing comparable that I know of, no.
Working on a carousel for shoes and jackets.... just looks like the set of horns I'm searching for
I visited one in Berlin today. People were talking loudly over the music and I was relegated to some bar stools near the entrance well outside the direct radiation area of the A7s. I visited alone, tables were only assigned to groups. So it was indeed a waste of time.
Those are the speakers that I have, connected to my home theater rig. Although my Arcam has eight channels, I only use two. It is more than enough. Although, I do fantasize about adding some other speakers for surround sound. The SOT A7s throw a very nice enveloping sound field all by themselves.
At one time, I did have the horns mounted to the top. I took the time to be sure that I time aligned the drivers. My wife did not appreciate the Frankenstein look. They are currently flipped with the horn inside the air hole.
What is nice, is that I have them connected by an inter-connect to my main system. When I upgrade my main system, the sound of the theaters also benefit from that upgrade.
Inside, they are all original, including the quarter inch phono jacks.
One of these days I would like to rebuild the cross over, although I have no idea of how to do that.
Could you imagine if I connected the SOT A7 and the TL2 in the same room? Ha, ha, ha ha ha ha ha. (evil laugh.)
Because both systems are connected, I can play the same music on both systems at the same time. When no one is at home, I turn up the SOT in the other room, on the same floor, to energize the whole house, and it works kind of like a subwoofer to my main system.😎
Damn mate! Altec and TL2?? would be awesome if you could give us a comparison when your done 👍
Meanwhile I was being absolutely obsessed with this new loudspeaker form that stuck in my head since the Mahler concert.
I've been working a bit more on it... Looks promising I think.
Would it work?
Looks a lot like the those guys- One of best of show in munich- Forgot the name
Meanwhile I was being absolutely obsessed with this new loudspeaker form that stuck in my head since the Mahler concert.
I've been working a bit more on it... Looks promising I think.
Would it work?
Looks a lot like the those guys- One of best of show in munich- Forgot the name
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Those were Tune Audio Epitomes. Your shape also reminds me of a rotated Viva Audio Nuda. The horizontal dispersion would be awfully narrow.
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Maximax77 thanks, I haven’t seen the viva audio Nuba until you mentioned it. I guess this is how they solved the horizontal dispersion. Clever.
Ill try to spend more time listening to them at the upcoming Munich, maybe I could squeeze some information about them.
Ill try to spend more time listening to them at the upcoming Munich, maybe I could squeeze some information about them.
A narrow angled dimension like the horizontal above will only be narrow at higher frequencies. The mouth is a smaller size in the width so it will lose control and go wide at some middle frequency, overtaking the vertical.
BTW, how do you think Tune audio go around this problem of narrow dispersion?
Thank you Allen B for your input. It seems I cannot quote the last message I get, heres how it's looks on my smartphone, any idea how to fix it?
Not being able to quote the last post is a feature to prevent needless duplication in a thread, but yes, sometimes we need to quote a specific part of the previous thread and if you select any text, you should see a quote option...
So, more fun project is ready .... new (better?) Plinth for my denon dp1800.
The idea was to completely decoupling the arm from the noisy motor... so I used memory foam and some alternating materials to lower (in theory) vibration.
The mdf is covered with epoxidharz (resin)
And I alternated mdf with so called HPL vollkern plates.
The idea was to completely decoupling the arm from the noisy motor... so I used memory foam and some alternating materials to lower (in theory) vibration.
The mdf is covered with epoxidharz (resin)
And I alternated mdf with so called HPL vollkern plates.
