I use a Lenovo laptop with a Sound Blaster USB external interface to produce Toslink optical output that I run through a splitter with a Toslink cable going to a miniDSP 2x4HD located in each speaker. So yeah, I have optical speaker cables. I play most music from youTube with JRiver to play from a library or other streaming sources. I can also drive the speakers using a Raspbery Pi with an Allo brand digital output hat to produce a Toslink output. I run Volumio on the Pi.
Member @wesayso solved my issue. You can hook VST plugins into JRiver, and there's an M-S coder/decoder in Voxengo; the name of the plugin is MSED. Free too.
So I can go to M-S processing, high-pass the Side channel, and go back to L-R stereo. That makes the low notes mono below the high-pass freq.
Now I need to do a lot of listening tests to evaluate the idea.
Jan
So I can go to M-S processing, high-pass the Side channel, and go back to L-R stereo. That makes the low notes mono below the high-pass freq.
Now I need to do a lot of listening tests to evaluate the idea.
Jan
Why squash LF stereo info... like in churches etc... makes no sense ing CD. Vinyl... we'll....
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Had the newest Bluesound this last autumn. Upgraded power supply and internals immediately, using a Polish kit. The sound improved by a large margin. Was running Quobuz.
It might also be interesting to have a listen to a low-passed side channel, just to hear what you'd be missing out on. I did this when I was experimenting with DSP based subsonic filters for my vinyl playback chain. The amount of low frequency information in the side channels surprised me. That's why I consider the thesis that "mastering engineers mix low frequencies to mono anyway" to be audio folklore. Seems like someone forgot to inform the mastering engineers that they're expected to do this.
They were expected to do this with media which didn't allow for this ( vinyl). With digital media there is no issue letting low end phase issues and customers don't ask for it to be monoed, then... responsability is now on producer/ recording-mixing engineer/artist.
Here Intel NUC 8th generation i3 run sometimes headless under Daphile streaming TIDAL and The Jazz Groove webradio or under Windows 11 using bitperfect Foobar2000 which goes into dam1021 Soekris DAC with Nutube output buffer, again Nutube preamp and Wolverine power amp.
Gaetano.
Gaetano.
I like Clementine for convenience:
On this PC, it's USB in Windows 11 to a Topping D10 DAC and a home made Tube Headphone amp (https://diyaudioprojects.com/Solid/12AU7-IRF510-LM317-Headamp/ PCB By K Mount on EBay) AKG 612 0r 702.
When I can it's a USFF PC running Linux and Clementine (Usually), USB to a Roland Edirol UA-5 interface, then to a "Apart Concept 1" amplifier. The amp was a steal as it had a broken volume control- it took 3 minutes to reposition. Output is from my ancient Yamaha NS1000s.
The amplifier has digital control through RS232, so I got a copy of Lazarus and wrote an on screen volume/channel control for it
I usually share the Linux PC's desktop to my Windows PC to control the amp and Clementine. I never have to leave my chair again!
On this PC, it's USB in Windows 11 to a Topping D10 DAC and a home made Tube Headphone amp (https://diyaudioprojects.com/Solid/12AU7-IRF510-LM317-Headamp/ PCB By K Mount on EBay) AKG 612 0r 702.
When I can it's a USFF PC running Linux and Clementine (Usually), USB to a Roland Edirol UA-5 interface, then to a "Apart Concept 1" amplifier. The amp was a steal as it had a broken volume control- it took 3 minutes to reposition. Output is from my ancient Yamaha NS1000s.
The amplifier has digital control through RS232, so I got a copy of Lazarus and wrote an on screen volume/channel control for it
I usually share the Linux PC's desktop to my Windows PC to control the amp and Clementine. I never have to leave my chair again!
I use a good old Squeezebox classic to stream my CD rips and other 2-channel music from
Logitech Media Server (LMS) running on Windows 10. For multichannel files and SACD rips I use KODI, also running on Windows 10. Both have good remote apps for Android and iOS platforms, so everything can be remote controlled. My preamp/processor also have a remote app, so I don’t have to leave the couch or use any dirt cheap plastic remote controls.
I also like that KODI and LMS don’t require internet access or that you need to create an account somewhere out there. I hate stuff that don’t work off grid. That being said, neither Android or iOS can.
Logitech Media Server (LMS) running on Windows 10. For multichannel files and SACD rips I use KODI, also running on Windows 10. Both have good remote apps for Android and iOS platforms, so everything can be remote controlled. My preamp/processor also have a remote app, so I don’t have to leave the couch or use any dirt cheap plastic remote controls.
I also like that KODI and LMS don’t require internet access or that you need to create an account somewhere out there. I hate stuff that don’t work off grid. That being said, neither Android or iOS can.
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Another vote for JRiver here.. since a few months running on Win 10 Pro, I was using Win 7 Pro for what seemed like ages (because it was rock solid). I've been using JRiver for over 10 years and I'm still satisfied with it. An easy way to handle the music database, I also use it as a powerful Home Theater setup, with excellent picture quality to accompany the music due to the MadVR extension that let's my graphics card handle the picture sent to the TV.
JRiver is expandable and as such it can do a variety of things. I run a full DSP setup with it and if I can dream up an experiment to try, I can create it within JRiver. I used it to do cross talk cancellation, handle the streams that go to: mains, ambient and subs, all while running FIR convolution on all channels.
JRiver is expandable and as such it can do a variety of things. I run a full DSP setup with it and if I can dream up an experiment to try, I can create it within JRiver. I used it to do cross talk cancellation, handle the streams that go to: mains, ambient and subs, all while running FIR convolution on all channels.
One thing that's not clear to me is how JRiver handles volume control. I read the Wiki and decided I want to use Internal Volume as that seems the least lossy and provides maximum headroom for DSP processing.
But if I do that, the Windows volume slider is still active! I would have thought that using JRiver Internal Volume would bypass the Windows volume processing. Or is the Windows Vol slider now run (reacted to) by JRiver?
Edit: I think I found the answer. In the Sound Output W10 settings I had "Loudspeakers (Topping DM7)" selected.
I changed that to "JRiver MC30" and now the W10 sliders are non-operational, and JRiver plays through the Topping DAC.
Jan
But if I do that, the Windows volume slider is still active! I would have thought that using JRiver Internal Volume would bypass the Windows volume processing. Or is the Windows Vol slider now run (reacted to) by JRiver?
Edit: I think I found the answer. In the Sound Output W10 settings I had "Loudspeakers (Topping DM7)" selected.
I changed that to "JRiver MC30" and now the W10 sliders are non-operational, and JRiver plays through the Topping DAC.
Jan
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Jan,
What drivers do you use for your soundcard?
If ASIO it shouldn't behave like you describe.
What drivers do you use for your soundcard?
If ASIO it shouldn't behave like you describe.
Do you use an Asio driver or Wasapi (highly recommended)? I can turn up/down the volume of my Asus ST default Windows driver without it affecting the volume level within JRiver (set as Internal Volume). I guess if you use "Default Audio Device" as output, Windows is still controlling the volume. Asio and Wasapi should both be able to handle sound without interference from Windows.
I see @krivium is quicker than I am 🙂.
I see @krivium is quicker than I am 🙂.
I think I found the answer. In the Sound Output W10 settings I had "Loudspeakers (Topping DM7)" selected.
I changed that to "JRiver MC30" and now the W10 sliders are non-operational, and JRiver plays through the Topping DAC.
Thanks guys!
Jan
I changed that to "JRiver MC30" and now the W10 sliders are non-operational, and JRiver plays through the Topping DAC.
Thanks guys!
Jan
