FET vs BJT input phono preamp

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Did anybody say anything about PSRR affecting the output?

Whatever way you slice it and dice it, as drawn it will not work. This is simply a long tail pair with a current mirror as load, biased at about 0.5mA. Now look at the drop on R3 and R2, it’s about 15V and therefore Q2 is wrongly biased (base is at ground, collector is positive, in fact Q2 saturates). Everything else crumbles.

A typical situation when a simulator is the wrong tool if one doesn’t know what he’s doing.
 
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Probably not...if you follow the posts down to first carlmart switch you find that i abandoned this topic myself before that.So i said that his posts should be moved into Billhurv's topic on mechanical resonance as it's mostly Hans responding there.
 
Did anybody say anything about PSRR affecting the output?

Whatever way you slice it and dice it, as drawn it will not work. This is simply a long tail pair with a current mirror as load, biased at about 0.5mA. Now look at the drop on R3 and R2, it’s about 15V and therefore Q2 is wrongly biased (base is at ground, collector is positive, in fact Q2 saturates). Everything else crumbles.

A typical situation when a simulator is the wrong tool if one doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Except people already built and used Taylor's phono preamp a long time ago...before any LtSpice ever existed.
 
There are not enough voices saying a new thread should be open to add cartridge influences on the phono stages, being them BJT or FET.

What I did was take latest Hans version to the circuit I had proposed based on Erno Borbely's proposal, and simulate it. Hopefully the variables I loaded are correct.

FET vs BJT input phono preamp

I think I converted it correctly into a working simulation and got similar results to that he got. Please do judge, particularly you Hans, if my job was correct.

.asc file is also enclosed, so anyone can check the simulation and correct what you think should be corrected.

I would appreciate if someone could redesign this schematic into the actual circuit to be used.

The input load, resistor and cap to start with, it was not what people have found out to be using test records and scopes. I wonder what other instruments could be used to check on those values.
 

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What you did was exactly right for the damped version.
I rearanged the parts a bit, by replacing the mechanical cart resonance emulator into the generator, giving a better visibility of what is the Cart and what is the actual Riaa Preamp.

Hans
this post belongs here:

mechanical resonance in MMs
You'll get this message every single time you post here mechanical cart simulations.
Do you feel frustrated because MarcelvdG has shawn multiple time that you didn't make the right calculations on noise and try populating every single phono preamp topics with your expertise ?
Do you want me quoting every single post of yours in every phono topic you activate and be answered offtopic ?
I can be that insolent too!
Or you think that a stupid guy like me can't do it...do you?
 
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What if I place a second version of Carlmarts circuit diagram with BJT input, are whe then on track again ?

Hans

P.s. in case you didn’t notice, carlmart’s circuit has absolutely nothing to do with mechanical resonance in MM’s, just for the record.
 
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From now on i'm reporting every single post you put here!
Is that ok for you?

Sorry, dreamth, I do not wish to argue with you, but your claim is out of line.

What will you report me for?

There's no voice saying the opposite either, that what I'm write does not belong here.

As Hans said: you are not the police here. I haven't seen any moderators claiming something is wrong, because nothing is.

Apparently your questions were all answered, and the topic evolved. You just do not seem to accept it.
 
I wonder why You chose this topic to put your seeds into it...


Is there any need for a topic to evolve into something different than the Topic's name is all about?
Do you have anything to say about why a bjt input preamp would be better or worse than a FET preamp?
 
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