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How does mass damp? I see that phrase used often, but it has never made sense to me.

se

Pedant...
I pray for less vibration....

I prefer high mass (i.e. heavy objects, shelves lead etc.) for damping, if possible with a energy absorbing viscoelastic layer between two high mass layers.
Because the heavier the object the less it is likely to vibrate in collusion with the energy I am pumping into the room with my speakers etc.

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Hi,



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Yep, sure ...😱

And at the bottom of the page is a link for "Phonosophie Pure Silver Internal 20mm x 5mm T Fuse" and "Consider this an ESSENTIAL upgrade!"
Let's see...$88.53 each...It will cost me only $531.18 to "upgrade" my Bi-amped system! I'm going to RUN and get my credit card! :whacko:

Mike
 
Pedant...

Pedant? Nonsense. "Mass damping" is a complete oxymoron. If it's pedantry to point out a complete contradiction of terms, then God help us.

I pray for less vibration....

Instead of praying, you should perhaps learn a little something about the subject.

I prefer high mass (i.e. heavy objects, shelves lead etc.) for damping...

Mass does not damp. Mass and damping are a contradiction.

...if possible with a energy absorbing viscoelastic layer between two high mass layers.

And it's that energy absorbing viscoelastic layer that is the damping, not the mass. Damping is loss. Mass, in itself, is not loss. Mass is mass.

Take a given mass, suspend it from a spring of a given stiffness. Stretch or compress the spring and let it go and the mass and spring combination will oscillate at a given frequency, depending on the mass and the stiffness of the spring.

Increase the stiffness of the spring and/or reduce the amount of mass, and it will oscillate at a higher frequency. Reduce the stiffness of the spring and/or increase the amount of mass and it will oscillate at a lower frequency.

If there is no loss in the system, it will oscillate forever. Add some loss, say by adding something that converts some of that stored energy into heat, and you have damping. The more loss you add (more damping), the shorter the period of time it will oscillate.

This is basic physics, not rocket science. They teach this stuff (or used to anyway) in junior high and high school here.

I'm not being a pedant here. I'm pointing out a complete contradiction of terms.

se
 
"Treated with over 2,000,000 volts of electricity!"

I tested one of this company's gadgets for headphones. It had all the efficacy of a Bybee. $300. I really wish I could lose the integrity that holds me back from scamming the suckers.

I know right. I should have really launched my fake cable treatment product i posted years back on this forum. I called it Cable-Op (an anagram for placebo). I was basically going to sell people glue and tell them it filtered out some pseudo scientific bs like filter out dark energy or matter.

It was funny one guy responded saying (paraphrasing) "On this forum i can't tell if he is joking or not"

I sort of wanted to open two companies - one with real innovations or products that will actually do something and one with snake oil and just watch how the snake oil company made more money over the years and compare the two at like the end of a decade.
 
Pedant? Nonsense. "Mass damping" is a complete oxymoron. If it's pedantry to point out a complete contradiction of terms, then God help us.



Instead of praying, you should perhaps learn a little something about the subject.



Mass does not damp. Mass and damping are a contradiction.



And it's that energy absorbing viscoelastic layer that is the damping, not the mass. Damping is loss. Mass, in itself, is not loss. Mass is mass.

Take a given mass, suspend it from a spring of a given stiffness. Stretch or compress the spring and let it go and the mass and spring combination will oscillate at a given frequency, depending on the mass and the stiffness of the spring.

Increase the stiffness of the spring and/or reduce the amount of mass, and it will oscillate at a higher frequency. Reduce the stiffness of the spring and/or increase the amount of mass and it will oscillate at a lower frequency.

If there is no loss in the system, it will oscillate forever. Add some loss, say by adding something that converts some of that stored energy into heat, and you have damping. The more loss you add (more damping), the shorter the period of time it will oscillate.

This is basic physics, not rocket science. They teach this stuff (or used to anyway) in junior high and high school here.

I'm not being a pedant here. I'm pointing out a complete contradiction of terms.

se

Nice to see you are still on form....
OK I agree the term is/was miss used.
 
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