I would love to know how, same with Video... cables are effectively wave guides so I cant see how solid vs stranded would make a difference (excluding HF and high power switching where litzs or planar conductors have to be used).
Stranded wire would probably be bad for a carefully controlled characteristic impedance.
The amount of time and money spent on marketing & advertising will be unbelievable.
I do wonder how much time Mr. HFT spends on FB.
Mr. Knight : business graduate, cpa certificate, reporter.
Nike spends 10% of the annual revenue on marketing.
(at least Nike pays quite handsomely for patents, though our share is long gone eaten)
I do wonder how much time Mr. HFT spends on FB.
Mr. Knight : business graduate, cpa certificate, reporter.
Nike spends 10% of the annual revenue on marketing.
(at least Nike pays quite handsomely for patents, though our share is long gone eaten)
It isn't though, same with Ethernet cables, you can get stranded and solid core cables for video, digital and other applications that require a controlled impedance cable...
If its going to move you use a more flexible stranded cable, for permanent installations you tend to use solid core.
I strongly suspect we are entering the realm of myths, having used and installed both and seen both being used.
Looking around I cannot see any reason why there should be a difference or found any information that supports the view.
His only "view" was that a stranded lead would simply make it more difficult to tightly control the cable's characteristic impedance. I didn't see anything in his post stating or implying that this would be so detrimental that it would result in any audible difference.
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Synergistic spam
I looked at some Synergistic sites on my cell phone a while back, and now occasionally receive emails promoting their stuff.
So, I was kind of intrigued with their literature on a grounding block, thinking for a few moments, it might be good to have all the interconnect grounds, and my turntable's ground, going to the same place. I've been going the other way, adding isolation transformers one by one, in the interconnect's source, then preamp, then active crossover connections, then power amp connections, until I stop hearing improvements.
Then they started mentioning they employ quantum tunnelling in their top priced speaker cable, presumably to have sonic transients achieve faster than light speed.
Maybe they use this in something called a ($395!!!) high definition ground wire?
Then they assigned warm or neutral qualities to the sound of their cables, based upon the colour of the cables' coating.
At this point, I could empathize with the HAL 9000 unit in 2001: A Space Odyssey, when it complained " I'm afraid, Dave . Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it."
Obviously, I'm just too curious, and need to file their emails in the trash prior to reading it.
Unless I've had a really bad day, and need some easy punchlines😀
Post script observation - maybe the grounding block is necessary after installing their most expensive wires. The quantum tunnelling may leave your system under grounded��
I looked at some Synergistic sites on my cell phone a while back, and now occasionally receive emails promoting their stuff.
So, I was kind of intrigued with their literature on a grounding block, thinking for a few moments, it might be good to have all the interconnect grounds, and my turntable's ground, going to the same place. I've been going the other way, adding isolation transformers one by one, in the interconnect's source, then preamp, then active crossover connections, then power amp connections, until I stop hearing improvements.
Then they started mentioning they employ quantum tunnelling in their top priced speaker cable, presumably to have sonic transients achieve faster than light speed.
Maybe they use this in something called a ($395!!!) high definition ground wire?
Then they assigned warm or neutral qualities to the sound of their cables, based upon the colour of the cables' coating.
At this point, I could empathize with the HAL 9000 unit in 2001: A Space Odyssey, when it complained " I'm afraid, Dave . Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it."
Obviously, I'm just too curious, and need to file their emails in the trash prior to reading it.
Unless I've had a really bad day, and need some easy punchlines😀
Post script observation - maybe the grounding block is necessary after installing their most expensive wires. The quantum tunnelling may leave your system under grounded��
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I ran a series of tests of Synergistic's "HOT transducer" for headphones. It works every bit as well as Bybee purifiers and putting your photos in the freezer.
I never tried the photos in the freezer. Do you have any evidence that the process does not work? '-)
A few years ago, bought and tried out Bybee purifiers, out of curiosity, and found money. I tried them in several circuits, but since I did lay out money for them, I'm not an unbiased judge.
I also no longer use them.
I've never heard of the freeze photo thing though- what was that supposed to do?
Mom used to put batteries in the 'fridge overnight, leave them on the counter through the next day, and then toast them a few minutes in the oven, I think to revive them for the transistor radio.
According to Peter Belt, when you had your first photograph taken, it created a disturbance in your aura and that affects how you hear. To make thing right again, you can take a photograph of yourself that was taken as a child, and a photograph that was taken recently, put them together in a plastic bag and deposit them in the freezer compartment of your refrigerator.
Doing so will not only make your system sound better, but any system you listen to will sound better as well.
Dave and Carol Clark of Positive Feedback Online are Belt devotees and have photos of themselves and their audio systems in their freezers.
It's pure batcrap craziness.
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That's crazier than antimatter's antigravity fuelling the universe's expansion, crazier than 10 billion lightyears long galactic ribbon structures in a 4 billion year old universe.
Sometimes the biggest surprises are in the smallest things.
Just ask Spock about Frodo's mastery of the Force!
Sometimes the biggest surprises are in the smallest things.
Just ask Spock about Frodo's mastery of the Force!
Yes it does, but I was meaning bandwidth. Solid core has it all over stranded. One cannot send a High Def serial digital signal nearly as far on stranded core as on solid. The result is no video at all at the other end. Make or Break.
It was a continuation of an earlier reply... an on-going conversation, someone had claimed earlier that stranded was detrimental to sound and video earlier when compared to solid. So no need to snipe all the time.
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What distances are we talking re stranded vs solid core?
RG59 stranded to solid has a ~2dB (10.4 Vs 8.8) greater loss per 100' at 900MHz 1.4dB at 500MHz the difference getting smaller as frequency decreases.
RG59 stranded to solid has a ~2dB (10.4 Vs 8.8) greater loss per 100' at 900MHz 1.4dB at 500MHz the difference getting smaller as frequency decreases.
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So what. This is an audio forum, not a gigabit data forum. More audiophoolishness: take something that only applies to VHF signals and use it directly on audio frequencies. Both impedance matching and stranded core fall in this catagory.
Here's another one for you a kink in a cat6 cable can cause 2db of loss. You better make sure all your audio cables are straight as an arrow for best sound.
That reminds me of a "consultant" who was investigating a network outage in one of our remote offices. He saw that an ethernet cable was under a table leg, moved the cable, and everything worked. He said it was because the kink in the cable was causing reflections in the cable, which I didn't really buy (a few meters of 10MB, you could have used a coat hanger). A few weeks later I was in that office and took a look at that server (which the consultant had built). The NIC was not secured by a screw nor fully inserted in its PCI slot, and moving the cable a few inches would cause the NIC to lose or make contact. Mystery solved. 😀
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