John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

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What fascinated me personally was an effect I could never explain. A taped song from a quality LP was in all respects like the original, but somehow, the bass lines tended to be more forceful, better defined, almost palpable, so much so that no cartridge I ever tried could match. It was so with my older Uher tape deck, it was so with the Philips, and it was so with a reVox A and B series decks.

Jesus, I loved those years.[/QUOTE
Copy better than original? Mona Lisa copy with more vivid colours than original painting? Some sort of distortion reducing effect? Or useful coloration.

Head bumps.
 
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That's no cannabis :)

Nah, the kids would recognise that and tell me off. Shame I didn't get a picture of the xmas catcus (Schlumbergera)in bloom as that is another cutting off a mother plant that may be older than me. But here is it in all its glory.

Better use of my time to upload that than argue modulation noise...
 

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I really don't know, but my guess would be coloration. Subtle in every sense except on deep bass lines, where it was hardly subtle, more like towering. And yes, I did prefer the tape to the orginal LP track. It simply sounded better to me.
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IIRC, JC a few years ago had much to say about his detailed studies of this effect/problem.

Dan.
Head bumps = bass boost...the boost frequencies vary according to tape speed.
See my earlier post #59988.

Dan.
 
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The loudspeaker distortion curves are interesting. The issue is how much is the microphones contribution.
What intrigues me, is that material that to me is critical for understanding what matters, where, is incredibly hard to find. At one stage I got very interested in the matter of microphone distortion, should be easy to find "reference" material, I thought ... another, Haahhh!! Talk about house secrets - in the end it seemed to come down to: this mic came from a famous manufacturer, just accept that it's going to be excellent, don't worry your pretty head about unimportant stuff like distortion ...
 
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What intrigues me, is that material that to me is critical for understanding what matters, where, is incredibly hard to find. At one stage I got very interested in the matter of microphone distortion, should be easy to find "reference" material, I thought ... another, Haahhh!! Talk about house secrets - in the end it seemed to come down to: this mic came from a famous manufacturer, just accept that it's going to be excellent, don't worry your pretty head about unimportant stuff like distortion ...

And yet a single google query gives me this http://www.bksv.com/doc/083-80.pdf which shows how B&K recomment measuing non-linearity. I am sure if i tried harder there would be decade of stuff from them. After all they make test instruments not musical instruments...
 
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Attached is a TDR of TV camera triaxial cable that was recently shipped to me. Any one willing to comment on what it shows?

Length is about 600' and impulse is .1uS. RG11 with an extra shield.

Deviations from flat are due to impedance changes or mismatch--- Z vs distance/time. Check with Tek or HP literature on how to cal., use and interpret the measurement.

Being the test equipment junky that I am, I have and use the TEK 7S12 plug-in with S6 and S52; A 25ps system. Not a current model... newer models exist....but works fine.

THx-RNMarsh
 
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Deviations from flat are due to impedance changes or mismatch. Check with Tek or HP literature on how to use and interpret the measurement.

THx-RNMarsh
Sure.
The deviations are reasonably evenly spaced in time so perhaps the cable reel has been dropped heavily onto one side cheek, causing squashing of the cable on one side of the reel, and consequent change in characteristic impedance at intervals along the cable.
My suggestion is an informed guess ?.

I expect Ed well knows the reason and this is another of his valuable teaser questions/lessons.

Dan.
 
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