I trying not to laugh, but sometimes it's too easy
and you figured out all that all by yourself, without any help at all...impressive 😀
Do I write in invisible ink or something.
I think it is funny everytime some one answers your questions you seem to ignore them.
I think it is funny everytime some one answers your questions you seem to ignore them.
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I trying not to laugh, but sometimes it's too easy - I took a look at the "experts" Balanced F5 thread. It looks like they're going to use a Conrad MF35-151.5 based solution. The same heatsinks I've been using all along - funny how that worked out for me! [/B]
If you had of been reading the thread you started, you would have known about this quite a while ago.
Finished testing of the MF35-151 heatsinks.
Air temperature was 22.1 degrees.
The small rectangles represent the position of mosfets across the heatsink.
Applied Voltages and Current were +/- 26.1V and 2.6A (135W).
Obviously between the mosfets the temperature is quite hot but further away the temperature drops off a fair bit. If there was a way to spread the heat across the heatsink better than we might be in busines.
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😀Quote : If there was a way to spread the heat across the heatsink better than we might be in busines.
Heath spreaders maybe ?😀😀
Heath spreaders maybe ?😀😀
well, it has been tried
its been suggested to mount the trasistor directly on a plate bigger than the transistor itself
and the isolating pad is mounted between plate and heatsink
thus the isolating pad is much bigger
the claim is that the bigger isolating pad means better heat transfer
I very much doubt this, and it may even have opposite effect, for various reasons
Papa Nelson have played with direct mounting on the 'plated' heatsink, without any isolating pad, and its supposed to work
but it is at a risk(huge)
maybe better no go there
I have suggested elsewhere if we could use thin Japan paper
but with the same risk
maybe it could be made safer with a thin layer of silicone, maybe
in other words, 'less is more' 😉
its been suggested to mount the trasistor directly on a plate bigger than the transistor itself
and the isolating pad is mounted between plate and heatsink
thus the isolating pad is much bigger
the claim is that the bigger isolating pad means better heat transfer
I very much doubt this, and it may even have opposite effect, for various reasons
Papa Nelson have played with direct mounting on the 'plated' heatsink, without any isolating pad, and its supposed to work
but it is at a risk(huge)
maybe better no go there
I have suggested elsewhere if we could use thin Japan paper
but with the same risk
maybe it could be made safer with a thin layer of silicone, maybe
in other words, 'less is more' 😉
Probably the best way to spread the heat would be to use a stack of mosfets evenly spaced across the heatsinks to even out the hotspots.
Nevermind, the problem was discussed and the conclusion was that there is not a problem.
Nevermind, the problem was discussed and the conclusion was that there is not a problem.
would be to use a stack of mosfets
the conclusion was that there is not a problem.
yeah, as many as the heatsink allows 😀 but how to drive them, and...

absolutely, heat transfer is fine as is, but wouldnt hurt if it was better, read faster 😉
well, I did think about one transistor...one heatsink, and no isolating pad 🙄 but I dont think I dare take that risk 😕
reason....it could blow too easy

yeah, as many as the heatsink allows 😀 but how to drive them, and...
absolutely, heat transfer is fine as is, but wouldnt hurt if it was better, read faster 😉
well, I did think about one transistor...one heatsink, and no isolating pad 🙄 but I dont think I dare take that risk 😕
reason....it could blow too easy![]()
I wouldn't do that, as if the mosfet are not thermally coupled you can end up with unstable DC bias.
D.
Toner Transfer Paper
NYCOne:
What toner-transfer paper works best with a laser printer? I have searched Staples web pages and fine nothing suggestive of a product for the specific purpose.
NYCOne:
What toner-transfer paper works best with a laser printer? I have searched Staples web pages and fine nothing suggestive of a product for the specific purpose.
yeah, as many as the heatsink allows 😀 but how to drive them, and...![]()
Aaaah, but you could use 6 pairs of 2sk2013/2sj313.
2sk2013 has Ciss of 170pF at Vds=10V. 6 x 170 = 1020pF
No worries mate😎
2.6A in class A, more amperes in class AB depending on your PS.Bias Current:So if I understand this correctly now, when I biased the Cascoded F5 to .6V (with a 0R47 source resistor), I was at 1.3A bias and 2.6A peak. Straightforward, right?
As I said in the last post I made in that thread, I was moving on.
Also, the Bipolar cascode addition was quite recent, so I don't know how that could have been in the old thread.
Also, the Bipolar cascode addition was quite recent, so I don't know how that could have been in the old thread.
If you had of been reading the thread you started, you would have known about this quite a while ago.
Just dealing in facts.
I treat folks the way they treat me. Something about a rule and gold or something...
I treat folks the way they treat me. Something about a rule and gold or something...
are you trying to alienate yourself with these posts NYCone?
The issue your missing is that I'm not questioning what you're saying.
I'm questioning points made by other people (in another thread). For example: I asked NP about Cascoding because other folks (not you) had said they saw no difference on the Balanced F5.
I see your answers, but I guess I'm trying to vet the other folks points. I understand what you're saying.
I hadn't answered your queries because I thought this would become apparent over a few posts, but I guess I was wrong.
QUOTE=Melon Head;2476590]Do I write in invisible ink or something.
I think it is funny every time some one answers your questions you seem to ignore them.[/QUOTE]
I'm questioning points made by other people (in another thread). For example: I asked NP about Cascoding because other folks (not you) had said they saw no difference on the Balanced F5.
I see your answers, but I guess I'm trying to vet the other folks points. I understand what you're saying.
I hadn't answered your queries because I thought this would become apparent over a few posts, but I guess I was wrong.
QUOTE=Melon Head;2476590]Do I write in invisible ink or something.
I think it is funny every time some one answers your questions you seem to ignore them.[/QUOTE]
As I said in the last post I made in that thread, I was moving on.
Also, the Bipolar cascode addition was quite recent, so I don't know how that could have been in the old thread.
Well actually that was back in October 2010, and you only recently abandoned your thread.
Anyway nevermind.
See post #23
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/183362-f5x-euvl-approach-3.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/183362-f5x-euvl-approach-3.html
Well actually that was back in October 2010, and you only recently abandoned your thread.
Anyway nevermind.
We all have the ability to ignore posts by someone if we get sic of their "torocaca" attitude about who derived, developed and built what first. Most of that is not important to most of us. Some people are just never wrong, don't have bad attitudes, and are not anti-social. but, they gotta be on top of som'in. 🙄
How long have you been here NYCOne? I could be wrong based on you handle but, I don't really want to tell you this but, most of the people in the area around NY think your neigbors are the crudest ruduest people on earth next to NJ. Yea, the Europeans and others are dying to come there on vacation but your not the reason!
Get a clue dude!
How long have you been here NYCOne? I could be wrong based on you handle but, I don't really want to tell you this but, most of the people in the area around NY think your neigbors are the crudest ruduest people on earth next to NJ. Yea, the Europeans and others are dying to come there on vacation but your not the reason!
Get a clue dude!
You lost me. I don't know what your slang reference means. If you're trying to insult NYC, go ahead, I don't like the city either.
I like DIYAudio. It has some very interesting stuff.
With the exception of my first post, I only respond to jabs.
Nevertheless, perhaps you're right. I'll turn over a new leaf, and pledge to stick to my builds, and ignore the outrageous slings and arrows of the "experts".
On to real stuff:
I'm finishing my OB speakers for the next few days. No real updates on the amps until the speakers are done. After the speakers are up, I'll etch the dedicated Balanced - Cascoded boards and stuff them.
Finally, I'll buy some new toroids and off to the races...
I like DIYAudio. It has some very interesting stuff.
With the exception of my first post, I only respond to jabs.
Nevertheless, perhaps you're right. I'll turn over a new leaf, and pledge to stick to my builds, and ignore the outrageous slings and arrows of the "experts".
On to real stuff:
I'm finishing my OB speakers for the next few days. No real updates on the amps until the speakers are done. After the speakers are up, I'll etch the dedicated Balanced - Cascoded boards and stuff them.
Finally, I'll buy some new toroids and off to the races...
We all have the ability to ignore posts by someone if we get sic of their "torocaca" attitude about who derived, developed and built what first. Most of that is not important to most of us. Some people are just never wrong, don't have bad attitudes, and are not anti-social. but, they gotta be on top of som'in. 🙄
How long have you been here NYCOne? I could be wrong based on you handle but, I don't really want to tell you this but, most of the people in the area around NY think your neigbors are the crudest ruduest people on earth next to NJ. Yea, the Europeans and others are dying to come there on vacation but your not the reason!
Get a clue dude!
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