I mixed my minis with some original B36 Cerwins.
Though they were not side by side. I was wall loading the mini's and Cerwins were center fill. So it was a matter of time alignment.
Though they were not side by side. I was wall loading the mini's and Cerwins were center fill. So it was a matter of time alignment.
Thanks, apparently I had a 'senior moment' as I initially interpreted your comment to mean that you'd simmed a different width x depth aspect ratio as opposed to a different horn cross sectional area/volume (Vb).
GM
GM
I´m sorry too post this, but I just dont bother reading 350 pages of replies😛
Have you all agreed on a collaborative design?
Have you all agreed on a collaborative design?
Hi there: No, there are many possible designs presented. Take time to read the whole thread to gain some understanding of Tom Danley's wonderful tapped horn concept and the DIY possibilities including many comments by the inventor TD and others who have constructed TH(s) . ...regards, Michael
No colaborative design needed. Just download hornresp, google for the awesome tutorial which one of the member here did on another forum (google for "tapped horn tutorial") and put in a driver you like. If you dont know which driver, try some pro audio ones, they usually all work great.
Or just use one of those: http://www.volvotreter.de/th.htm
Or just use one of those: http://www.volvotreter.de/th.htm
Here are some of the completed projects photos
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/subw...ted-tapped-horns-collaborative-th-thread.html
Is there a limit how narrow the channel can be - can it become ineffective? In a T-TQWT or OD could "chuffing" noise be introduced with a narrow exit?
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Attachments
Can anyone tell me how to determine the Rms value? Its the one I always have trouble with and can never find it.
http://manuals.harman.com/INF/CAR/Boxes and Parameters/1062W_final.pdf
http://manuals.harman.com/INF/CAR/Boxes and Parameters/860W_final.pdf
http://manuals.harman.com/INF/CAR/Boxes and Parameters/1062W_final.pdf
http://manuals.harman.com/INF/CAR/Boxes and Parameters/860W_final.pdf
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Just curious: a lot of the models I've seen posted here are based on HornResp and t/s parameters, which are basically SMALL-signal parameters. How well do these models hold up at PA levels? I'm sure most persons don't play their subs @ 1W...
Large Scale signal analysis ( like Klippel ) is not part of evaluations.
http://www.klippel.de/download/Nonlin/Klippel_nonlinearity_poster.jpg
Neither are the thermal effects.
These are important considerations.
On more than one occasion the same horn designs loaded with Eminence drivers failed compared to the same design with JBL 2226H drivers after periods of extended hard use.
( I would attribute this to JBL's more robust design and the superiority of the SVC cooling system that dissipates heat more effectively. )
Syd
http://www.klippel.de/download/Nonlin/Klippel_nonlinearity_poster.jpg
Neither are the thermal effects.
These are important considerations.
On more than one occasion the same horn designs loaded with Eminence drivers failed compared to the same design with JBL 2226H drivers after periods of extended hard use.
( I would attribute this to JBL's more robust design and the superiority of the SVC cooling system that dissipates heat more effectively. )
Syd
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??Rumors??
Hi HK26147,
Quote: "...On more than one occasion the same horn designs loaded with Eminence drivers failed compared to the same design with JBL 2226H drivers after periods of extended hard use...."
Does this comment pertain to one of the tapped horn projects in this thread? If yes, which one. Is this part of your personal experiences? If yes, can you expand, e.g.: time, place, event.
Thank you for the Klippel poster, and any additional information will be appreciated.
Regards,
Hi HK26147,
Quote: "...On more than one occasion the same horn designs loaded with Eminence drivers failed compared to the same design with JBL 2226H drivers after periods of extended hard use...."
Does this comment pertain to one of the tapped horn projects in this thread? If yes, which one. Is this part of your personal experiences? If yes, can you expand, e.g.: time, place, event.
Thank you for the Klippel poster, and any additional information will be appreciated.
Regards,
http://www.klippel.de/download/group.asp
http://www.klippel.de/pubs/papers.asp
It was a folded horn ( but not one particular to this TH thread ).
It was a design used for exclusively for PA on another forum.
The situation was 8 cabs ( 4 with 3015LF, 4 with 2226H ).
After 7 hours of use the 3015 were dead.
The Loudspeaker handbook By John Eargle
has Chapter 9 "Thermal Failure Modes of Loudspeakers"
page 233 - 243 ( use Google Book preview).
It details and graphs the VGC system
( which I incorrectly called the SVC system on the previous post )
Syd
FWIW: I can attest to the durability of the 2226H.
I measured one that was part of a large touring system with 8 years of hard constant use and the T/S parms. were very close to manufacturer's spec.
Syd
http://www.klippel.de/pubs/papers.asp
It was a folded horn ( but not one particular to this TH thread ).
It was a design used for exclusively for PA on another forum.
The situation was 8 cabs ( 4 with 3015LF, 4 with 2226H ).
After 7 hours of use the 3015 were dead.
The Loudspeaker handbook By John Eargle
has Chapter 9 "Thermal Failure Modes of Loudspeakers"
page 233 - 243 ( use Google Book preview).
It details and graphs the VGC system
( which I incorrectly called the SVC system on the previous post )
Syd
FWIW: I can attest to the durability of the 2226H.
I measured one that was part of a large touring system with 8 years of hard constant use and the T/S parms. were very close to manufacturer's spec.
Syd
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I had to reduce the bass speakers to well below 1W to get the total sound from the stereo pair of full range speakers and the mono bass speaker to sound right.
Listening to just the bass speaker there seemed to be very little information.
Listening to just the small full range speakers gave an acceptable sound.
Adding the bass channel and the sound became real. Turning off the bass channel and the music lost and voices lost that "realness".
The mains were running at ~0.5W each and the bass ~0.1W
Although the bass speaker is twin 18inches it is not a sub woofer. Output falls steeply below 20Hz.
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