I think power is not critical as an improvement to the F2, as it is intended to be used with very high efficiency drivers.
My bet will be
1. A more rigid current source? ...or
2. Improve the linearity of the transconductance
My bet will be
1. A more rigid current source? ...or
2. Improve the linearity of the transconductance
Nice setup Filip!!
Would this simplified F2 schematic work correctly? What resistance should I be looking for, for the current source?
How about a light bulb or cal-rod heater?FYC said:1. A more rigid current source?
Would this simplified F2 schematic work correctly? What resistance should I be looking for, for the current source?
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I am not sure if this will be a better current source compared to the MOSFET. The F2 runs at 2.5A, so even if you drop 30V across your resistor, it will be only be 12 Ohm - hardly a huge resistance to be called "Rigid". Further increases in the line voltage can bring up the resistance slightly, but the heat dissipation will not be practical.MEGA-amp said:Nice setup Filip!!
How about a light bulb or cal-rod heater?
Would this simplified F2 schematic work correctly? What resistance should I be looking for, for the current source?
Nelson Pass said:And I have a new version of the F2 that you will absolutely have to
make.
😎
Mmmmm...is it already submitted to AudioXpress? ( so we could see it here sooner rather than later )
🙂 😉
MEGA-amp said:
How about a light bulb or cal-rod heater?
Would this simplified F2 schematic work correctly? What resistance should I be looking for, for the current source?
Look here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1145318#post1145318
If you are using 110 v bulbs , then use roughly four time less wattage bulbs for the same current. Or, in other words, use a couple of 300w 110v bulbs, just like in Zen lite...
Vix said:
If you are using 110 v bulbs , then use roughly four time less wattage bulbs for the same current. Or, in other words, use a couple of 300w 110v bulbs, just like in Zen lite...
If you're in California you have to use CFL's 🙂
jackinnj said:
If you're in California you have to use CFL's 🙂
That sounds horrible!


Vix said:Mmmmm...is it already submitted to AudioXpress?
I have one here, but I haven't written it up. It has about 1/5 the
distortion of the original.
😎
Nelson Pass said:
I have one here, but I haven't written it up. It has about 1/5 the
distortion of the original.
😎
😎
Hi,
Could you please share some breadcrumbs before the meal arrives..?🙂
For example,
Is it a fully Mosfet design, or incorporates a j-fet?
Is it single-ended or balanced?
What is the current/voltage through CCS?
Thanks...
Can't wait for it...
😎
Re: Filip's F2
Hi everyone!
Here are the values of my eq network
C=15u, R=8,2 Ohms in parallel with R=62 Ohms... in parallel with the drivers. Just FYI 🙂.
The setup is indeed very DIY 🙂, but there is no hum, buzz or anything at all, and the amp is very silent... unlike my phono preamp (VSPS) 🙁.
I am eagerly waiting for the next F2 edition as well, will definitely build it.
Regards,
Filip
Hi everyone!
Here are the values of my eq network
C=15u, R=8,2 Ohms in parallel with R=62 Ohms... in parallel with the drivers. Just FYI 🙂.
The setup is indeed very DIY 🙂, but there is no hum, buzz or anything at all, and the amp is very silent... unlike my phono preamp (VSPS) 🙁.
I am eagerly waiting for the next F2 edition as well, will definitely build it.
Regards,
Filip
Vix said:Could you please share some breadcrumbs before the meal arrives..?🙂
I wouldn't want t spoil you meal.
😎
toufu said:I noticed F2 and F3 uses the same power supply. But F2 needs 24V and F3 needs 48V?
By the way, If you build F2 lite, or decide to use a resistor as a current source, it is then possible to use 48 V supply. Burn 2/3 across the resistor and 1/3 across the mosfet 🙂
Nelson Pass said:
I have one here, but I haven't written it up. It has about 1/5 the
distortion of the original.
😎
Only 1/5 the distortion??? Isn't the distortion responsible for giving it that 'tube like' charm ?


That's a good question. I don't mind a little 2nd harmonic, but I
have always thought that a little less in the F2 would be a good thing.
Of course improving it means either getting a better FET or making
a more complex circuit. The better FET idea is very appealing.
I think I have some curves at home that will illustrate this, and I'll
see if I can dig them up tonight.
😎
have always thought that a little less in the F2 would be a good thing.
Of course improving it means either getting a better FET or making
a more complex circuit. The better FET idea is very appealing.
I think I have some curves at home that will illustrate this, and I'll
see if I can dig them up tonight.
😎
Nelson Pass said:That's a good question. I don't mind a little 2nd harmonic, but I
have always thought that a little less in the F2 would be a good thing.
Of course improving it means either getting a better FET or making
a more complex circuit. The better FET idea is very appealing.
I think I have some curves at home that will illustrate this, and I'll
see if I can dig them up tonight.
😎
Any chance to look at a more rigid CCS, certainly a more complex circuit, but will the performance gain offset the extra effort?
It turns out that the current sources, whether ccs, srpp variants,
or Alephs, are not the source of much distortion at all. You could
say that they are already pretty stiff compared to the rest of the
circuit.
Your performance improvements must come from the gain device itself.
😎
or Alephs, are not the source of much distortion at all. You could
say that they are already pretty stiff compared to the rest of the
circuit.
Your performance improvements must come from the gain device itself.
😎
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