It's going to cost, but this should do what you are looking for (..though the top-octave is still going to be suppressed off-axis because of the driver's diameter, relative to a 3" driver or smaller):
Tang Band W4-1879 4" Full-Range Driver
Ironically it will be more difficult to integrate on-baffle (as intended) because it's so linear..
Tang Band W4-1879 4" Full-Range Driver
Ironically it will be more difficult to integrate on-baffle (as intended) because it's so linear..
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A nice driver for sure Scott...... but do you have any faith in Tang Band’s measurements?.......I’ve read most DIYers find independant measurements look NOTHING like TB’s?
The off axis response isn’t a concern as i’ll Be doing critical listening on axis in the nearfield but good observation. Looking at the Visaton B80.....that driver has crazy good off axis response.
The off axis response isn’t a concern as i’ll Be doing critical listening on axis in the nearfield but good observation. Looking at the Visaton B80.....that driver has crazy good off axis response.
In what respect, on what baffle, in what sort of enclosures (and/or with no enclosure), with any cabinet fill?
Have you painted on these drivers?
Did you measure them fully to see if they were bad?
..for others to reference:
What do you think? Tang Band W4-1879 4" Full Range Driver
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Not worth the effort. Besides being coloured the pair is not all that well matched. Often the case with the TB drivers i have had thru here.
If someone wants them i’d be happy to see $50.
dave
I dunno Scott......looks like insider Chinese propoganda/trolling buddy.....the guy Laing joins, makes three posts and disappears? Lol
Does Clio lie? (..if anything it's often a bit more "harsh" than reality.)
Still, could be cherry-picked. (..and yeah, could well be a TB employee.)
Here is Tim's results with the 3" (and I'm expecting the lower-end of this 4" to be better, it is a larger driver after all):
Still, could be cherry-picked. (..and yeah, could well be a TB employee.)
Here is Tim's results with the 3" (and I'm expecting the lower-end of this 4" to be better, it is a larger driver after all):
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Since Geddes posted his distortion experiment results i pay little attention to measured distortion. Not duplicated yet, but it points to the drunk looking for his keys under the streetlight (in the nite) and answers when asked if he lost his keys there he says no, but i can see here kinda thing.
If that is the case, Clio may not lie but it doesn’t tell us anything.
dave
If that is the case, Clio may not lie but it doesn’t tell us anything.
dave
Those LMS graphs are the ones supplied with the drivers, when you order directly from TB, so yeah, those are in-house measurements... to be taken with a grain of salt.
But measurements could be misinterpreted ....
So much easier to just talk about it without anything to back it up.
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So much easier to just talk about it without anything to back it up.
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And not to bolster Planet’s position, but yes.......many of the most popular, iconic and beloved speakers over the decades of hi fi have measured horribly!.....and yet?
In my case though, LOL....they matter as I need a flat response. I need reasonably low harmonic distortion as an identifier of where and when power compression begins....but I don’t fret it over the entire frequency spectrum.....outside of the 500-10k passband, HD becomes almost a meaningless measure on it’s own. I get a kick outta guys discounting a driver because of a breakup mode at 20k that propagates as HD at 15k.......other that some 13 year old fledging audiophile, NOBODY is gonna detect that
In your case, I'd simply get the 10F and be done with it. It has the measured results to back it up and simply is a good performing and sounding driver. How can you go wrong with that one... It will be excellent as a mid in a 3 way, it has enough going for it to act as a full range driver. The IR and FR both show it's honest.
No frills, just a driver that does what it needs to do.
No frills, just a driver that does what it needs to do.
I once made an online comparison:
Bester 3-Zoll-Breitbandlautsprecher?
sorry, its in german, but maybe you can use google translator.
Bester 3-Zoll-Breitbandlautsprecher?
sorry, its in german, but maybe you can use google translator.
Looking more and more like the 10F is the right choice.......and was high on my list from the start.
Not sure if in fullrange mode I should wire in a HP filter around 200hz......switch circuit would be complex to have it removed from the circuit when in 3way mode.....would be much easier to just setup an EQ plugin on the main buss and engage it when in fullrange mode though.
Not sure if in fullrange mode I should wire in a HP filter around 200hz......switch circuit would be complex to have it removed from the circuit when in 3way mode.....would be much easier to just setup an EQ plugin on the main buss and engage it when in fullrange mode though.
10f is very good (in all its variations), but again - linear. (..it also has a fair bit of distortion below 400 Hz.)
You really need to model any candidate on a baffle simulator.
"Flat" very likely isn't going to be achieved with a flat response from the driver without correction.
You really need to model any candidate on a baffle simulator.
"Flat" very likely isn't going to be achieved with a flat response from the driver without correction.
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