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"(even though we give more foreign aid than any other country)."

thats lie. These other countries don´t want the US sytely foreign aid: you put them under US military goverment. You only call it aid, in truth yo take over power there. (and expolit the treasures of soil)

" They will shoot your children in the streets, put you in jail and torture you, then kill you, and spend too much money doing it !"

more likely than at any place in europe. yes.

But most likely in the countries you generously provide your "foreign aid" like iraq ar afghanistan.

" We put the supreme race above all " indded. amkerikans stand above international law, onme amerikan live is wirth 10times more than an ordinary european one (proof: lockerby)

"even though were the most diverse nation" many south amerikan nations are of same diversity, for you of corse - they do not exists on this planet as you never heard about a southern hemisphere on this planet.


"we're led by a dictator" by a gang of fasicts, same as other fascistic regimes in the pasts. 33-45 it also was not one bad man Hitler, its only the one name you may know.


"even though our congress has the power" it shows most often it has not.


"we have no constitution or bill of rights " you do not care about the words written down in them.

"and [we] reject human rights " true, thats what you do. In your country as well as in iraq and in quantanamo bay. Everyone knows.
 
Lusso5 said:


Christer,

From what you say, the rest of the world is in a tizzy over semantics.

If Bush says "Sweden Sucks" does your country get depressed?


No, we may get annoyed but not much more. The problem in
the current situation is not so much how european countries
interpret him. Most of us probably take it with a grain of salt
and think that it is just his big mouth that slipped. What does
matter a lot in the current situation with islamistic terrorism
threatening both you and us is how the muslim world,
especially the arab countries, interpret what he says. These
people are ofteh brought up in countries with limited democracy
and free speach, often with strong religious indoctrination and
a scaringly high percentage of analphabetism. I am not saying
these people are more stupid per se, but they are likely to
be more sensitive to what western leaders, especially american
ones, say. Very few of these countries are secularized and
islam is important to many people and I am afraid anything
they interpret at hostile towards them is viewed as a clash
between religions. I believe most muslim arabs would not
believe it if told how many people in the western world do
not believe in a god at all, and if they did, that would just
put us even lower on the scale. I hope this analysis is
exaggerated, though.
 
"If Bush says "Sweden Sucks" does your country get depressed?"

you over in th US seem not to realize whats goin on. More and more people are not proud their country stands in line with the US, more and more people are proud to stay against the US. Your president is considered to be a dangerous criminal here, and we don´t carte the stupid nonsense he talks all the day - we only make jikes about him. And we hate our goverments for every support they give to your criminal war. "Old Europe" found some old values your country seems to have lost.
 
B.VDBOS said:


I only ever hear the bush crowd use that word

Read MEMRI, for a start. They provide translations of speeches by major Arab political and religious leaders and editorials from government-controlled Arab media. They've been savaged by people who don't like what they report, but they've never been caught in mistranslations or fabrications.


Please name some... within the context of the reply if possible?

Speech that is deemed racist, anti-Semitic, or derogatory, for example. Can you start a chapter of Hitler Youth in Germany? Now, some may argue that these are good restrictions (I wouldn't, but I understand the argument on the other side), but they are indeed restrictions.
 
SY said:
Read MEMRI, for a start. They provide translations of speeches by major Arab political and religious leaders and editorials from government-controlled Arab media. They've been savaged by people who don't like what they report, but they've never been caught in mistranslations or fabrications.


MEMRI

"Bridging The Language Gap Between The Middle East And The West" :scratch: (didnt know there was one)

The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) explores the Middle East through the region's media. MEMRI bridges the language gap which exists between the West and the Middle East, providing timely translations of Arabic, Farsi, and Hebrew media, as well as original analysis of political, ideological, intellectual, social, cultural, and religious trends in the Middle East.

Founded in February 1998 to inform the debate over U.S. policy in the Middle East, MEMRI is an independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit, 501 (c)3 organization. MEMRI's headquarters is located in Washington, DC with branch offices in Berlin, London, and Jerusalem, where MEMRI also maintains its Media Center. MEMRI research is translated to English, German, Hebrew, Italian, French, Spanish, Turkish, and Russian.
:whazzat: :whazzat: :whazzat:


Like I said, it comes from your country


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Brian Whitaker investigates whether the 'independent' media institute that translates the Arabic newspapers is quite what it seems

Monday August 12, 2002

For some time now, I have been receiving small gifts from a generous institute in the United States. The gifts are high-quality translations of articles from Arabic newspapers which the institute sends to me by email every few days, entirely free-of-charge......Selective Memri
 
SY said:
Speech that is deemed racist, anti-Semitic, or derogatory, for example. Can you start a chapter of Hitler Youth in Germany? Now, some may argue that these are good restrictions (I wouldn't, but I understand the argument on the other side), but they are indeed restrictions.
I don't think you know Germany that well. You just proved it.
 
B.VDBOS said:
Israil has real terrorists, one of them may even kill sss

🙄 yup , i got one more year in the army .

anyways
i'm glad that my country (and USA) is fighting terror and not giving them what they want like Spain..........


Originally posted by SY
When will the Arab "leaders" stop using the word "jihad"?
when they'll stop to beleive in thier religion .....
 
sss said:



when they'll stop to beleive in thier religion .....

Or rather when they stop interpreting jihad as violence.
Muslims seem very divided on what jihad really means.
Whenever they interview imams, or other muslims who are
supposed to know the books, 90% of them will say that
jihad is not about violence or war, but then once in a while
somebody will contradict that. Of course, basically all violence
and other trouble caused by any religion is about how the
texts are interpreted, or rather, how certain leaders want
them to be interpreted.
 
SY said:
I didn't claim to. I'm only in Germany about 3 times a year. But you didn't answer my question. Is it legal in Germany to start a chapter of Hitler Youth? Can you publish an anti-Semitic newspaper?
Nor did you answer all my questions in the past.
As of the chapters, if you are referring to groups, yes, there are many neo-nazi groups all around. They have no official status, but they don't need it anyway. There is also a party and everybody knows it is neo-nazi, altho they never said it.
 
Christer said:
how certain leaders want them to be interpreted.


I think that's the key. Muslim has to be a foundamentally good religion: otherwise it wouldn't have surivived til today. What's happening is that it is hijacked by some extreme fanatics as a means to vent their frustration at the Islamic world's lack of progress, vs. the rest of the world.

Rather than looking inside of them, they elected to blame others for their misery (sometimes deservedly so) and to use violence to revenge on others supposedly responsible for this.

Too bad because otherwise they would have been able to catch the last train out of town.
 
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