What's wrong with the kiss,boy ? ........ or - How I gained a gain ,little before Lee De Forest and little after Papa
lookie : Iron Pre | Zen Mod Blog
I already posted that link in few places here , but as it seems ,few Greedy Boyz are greedy for more info
cheap and clean way of having 6db (or little more ,with different gain device)
it's already everything written in that blog post , but to recapitulate :
-pot , then buffer of your choice , then 600:600 xformer connected as autoformer , voila! -there is 6db gain
if approach was good eons ago , when microfarrads and active gain devices were much more expensive than chunk of copper and iron,if approach is good for numerous mic input stages , if approach is good for F6 and especially M2 (buffer-autoformer-buffer) , it must be god for line stage too.
and yes , with 1+1 autoformer , Rout is four times Rout of buffer itself
xformers : Edcor have few , Jensen , Sowter, Lundahl etc.............
-do not expect that more expensive ones are necessary better sounding,
-do not expect maximum verity from buffer if you not use decent (shunt , my poison) reg.
-you can go wild and make your own autoformer , equipped with 24 taps , so skip pot on input and use autoformer at output, as volume attenuator and gain device ,as one device
-or you can make it this way - buffer -commercial AVC (200$ Slagle?)-output autoformer
-or you can go wild and connect commercial AVC to appropriate tap , as output autoformer and have 6db gain ...... that would be buffer -commercial AVC connected on proper tap
now I'm working on balanced Iron Pre ..... will post that soon too
edit on 11.10.2020. : last files for SE and Bal iteration are in posts #1149 and #1150
lookie : Iron Pre | Zen Mod Blog
I already posted that link in few places here , but as it seems ,few Greedy Boyz are greedy for more info
cheap and clean way of having 6db (or little more ,with different gain device)
it's already everything written in that blog post , but to recapitulate :
-pot , then buffer of your choice , then 600:600 xformer connected as autoformer , voila! -there is 6db gain
if approach was good eons ago , when microfarrads and active gain devices were much more expensive than chunk of copper and iron,if approach is good for numerous mic input stages , if approach is good for F6 and especially M2 (buffer-autoformer-buffer) , it must be god for line stage too.
and yes , with 1+1 autoformer , Rout is four times Rout of buffer itself
xformers : Edcor have few , Jensen , Sowter, Lundahl etc.............
-do not expect that more expensive ones are necessary better sounding,
-do not expect maximum verity from buffer if you not use decent (shunt , my poison) reg.
-you can go wild and make your own autoformer , equipped with 24 taps , so skip pot on input and use autoformer at output, as volume attenuator and gain device ,as one device
-or you can make it this way - buffer -commercial AVC (200$ Slagle?)-output autoformer
-or you can go wild and connect commercial AVC to appropriate tap , as output autoformer and have 6db gain ...... that would be buffer -commercial AVC connected on proper tap
now I'm working on balanced Iron Pre ..... will post that soon too
edit on 11.10.2020. : last files for SE and Bal iteration are in posts #1149 and #1150
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well , idea s that nothing is wrong with simple kiss , so no active gain stages
plenty of these in myriad threads around
plenty of these in myriad threads around
This could be a solution for old problems. I will try this with LDR+B1+Sowter 3575.
Thank you ZM.
Thank you ZM.
B1,yes, but which iteration ?
in case of JFet buffer made of same sex JFets , that means double Rout comparing to complementary JFet buffer ....... and Rout is veeery important when feeding xformer with lowish inductance
I would double JFets to decrease Rout
in fact - I would put both JFets in parallel , and put bjt CCS down , no output foolproof resistor
in case of JFet buffer made of same sex JFets , that means double Rout comparing to complementary JFet buffer ....... and Rout is veeery important when feeding xformer with lowish inductance
I would double JFets to decrease Rout
in fact - I would put both JFets in parallel , and put bjt CCS down , no output foolproof resistor
I was going to make some smart ar5e comment about you and Jacco kissing at the burning amp festival, but I'll just keep quiet about that.
Haha
naah
you're just jealous
Hello Zen Mod. Your final product is simple, and aesthetically beautiful. Bravo.
Methinks our dear ZM is getting old.....going back to simple essence of things.
As we tend to do as wisdom dawns.......😀😀😀
Fugly😛😛😛😛😛
tnx boyz ...... as I said , I'm in age when I certainly forgot more than I know now ....
regarding buffer type - I'm working on Diamond buffer , which is going to have similar THD spectra as complementary JFet one , and even better when loaded hard
of course that most important advantage is 100% lesser number of preciousssssss JFets in it
I couldn't stop turning my head in circles for day or so , trying to figure how's that I can't manage less than 25R on output , whatever I do ...... how's that possible that Diamond buffer is same as JFet buffer in that department , when I know that I both simed and measured bjt as superior to JFet , regarding Rout
and then , I realized that I'm constantly probing values for Rout calc on autoformer output ( not on buffer output) ..... while I was doing exactly opposite when calculating the same for JFet iteration
so - not bad , 25/4 R on buffer itself
we'll see soon , I'm getting pcbs in few days , will test them as Iron
regarding buffer type - I'm working on Diamond buffer , which is going to have similar THD spectra as complementary JFet one , and even better when loaded hard
of course that most important advantage is 100% lesser number of preciousssssss JFets in it
I couldn't stop turning my head in circles for day or so , trying to figure how's that I can't manage less than 25R on output , whatever I do ...... how's that possible that Diamond buffer is same as JFet buffer in that department , when I know that I both simed and measured bjt as superior to JFet , regarding Rout
and then , I realized that I'm constantly probing values for Rout calc on autoformer output ( not on buffer output) ..... while I was doing exactly opposite when calculating the same for JFet iteration
so - not bad , 25/4 R on buffer itself
we'll see soon , I'm getting pcbs in few days , will test them as Iron
Hello Zen Mod. Your final product is simple, and aesthetically beautiful. Bravo.
Correct! Love it !
That Leonardo is a pro.
But how he started off, in that old cassette deck....brrrrrr 😡🙁
😀😀
so what 🙂
look where it is now , in temporary role as pre , awaiting balanced substitution :
Iron Pre - Page 3 - Project gallery/WIKI - diyAudio.rs
in fact , this system : Big Tannoy MLTL for Woland , part 2 …….. (I’m proud 😉 ) | Zen Mod Blog
look where it is now , in temporary role as pre , awaiting balanced substitution :
Iron Pre - Page 3 - Project gallery/WIKI - diyAudio.rs
in fact , this system : Big Tannoy MLTL for Woland , part 2 …….. (I’m proud 😉 ) | Zen Mod Blog
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They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Now that is bloody ugly. Hahahaha
Never mind, it's what's on the inside that counts.
10/10 for cool ugly factor.
Now that is bloody ugly. Hahahaha
Never mind, it's what's on the inside that counts.
10/10 for cool ugly factor.
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