Its quite a normal thing that the copier passes themselves off as the original, or at the very least blurs the distinction between the two.
If Lii Audio and Lii Song are not the same product, manufactured in the same town and the same facilities, that’s news to me, to Decware and to Caintuck Audio.
That’s all I got.
Well I don't know all the particulars, other than what I read on the Fast 15 thread, but...
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/new-lii-audio-fast-15-anyone-hear-these-yet.391776/
Here's the website of the other guy (it's very slow, you may have to reload):
https://www.lii-audio-hifi.com/
He now is selling some of his stuff on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/AVPLAY-FAST-15-Frequency-Speaker-50-80W/dp/B0C3GRFJTK/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=lii+audio&qid=1703523181&sr=8-3&th=1
I ordered a pair of these on Dec.26th, and they came in yesterday. China to Va. Beach, not bad. Haven't hooked up yet.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/new-lii-audio-fast-15-anyone-hear-these-yet.391776/
Here's the website of the other guy (it's very slow, you may have to reload):
https://www.lii-audio-hifi.com/
He now is selling some of his stuff on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/AVPLAY-FAST-15-Frequency-Speaker-50-80W/dp/B0C3GRFJTK/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=lii+audio&qid=1703523181&sr=8-3&th=1
I ordered a pair of these on Dec.26th, and they came in yesterday. China to Va. Beach, not bad. Haven't hooked up yet.
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I keep finding better options locally. The GIP GPA driver I found earlier has a very high voice coil inductance. P Audio is also Thai but has a reasonable reputation abroad. I found this driver (GST-181200) that seems a bit more refined and am considering using 4 of them per side in Ripole configuration. That should be enough bass for a large room I guess.
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X max is only 6mm but with a total of eight 18 inchers that still is significant displacement. Moving the speakers will be a b*tch though.
It's not news to either Steve or Randy. It came up on the Decware forums a year or so ago. They both seemed to just shrug it off. https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1670446678If Lii Audio and Lii Song are not the same product, manufactured in the same town and the same facilities, that’s news to me, to Decware and to Caintuck Audio.
That’s all I got.
Those look equivalent to the drivers available on the AliExpress 'flagship store': https://www.aliexpress.com/store/912608241
Lii Song's line is significantly different. Of greater interest here than who's on first is how any of these other than the Fast 15 measure.
Found a 9mm xmax version of the same driver. I guess two per side in Ripole configuration should suffice.X max is only 6mm but with a total of eight 18 inchers that still is significant displacement. Moving the speakers will be a b*tch though.
http://p-audio.co.uk/products/P-Aud...ch_1500W_Low_Frequency_Loudspeaker_Driver.php
So I take it then that this is the real Lii
Web page & FB page with the link to their web page.
https://www.lii-audio.com
As opposed to anything else.
Web page & FB page with the link to their web page.
https://www.lii-audio.com
As opposed to anything else.
Attachments
Isn't that just saying that Liii Song, the company, and its associated website (lii-audio.com) were both founded concurrently in 2016?
i wouldnt take anyone who sells 15-18" "fullrange" drivers seriously at all. never should such a size be used near even 1khz, any tweeter on the planet would destroy it. there are also cheap selenium compression driver mids to make it a real 3-way with far better performence.
Here is the Lii audio website https://www.lii-audio-hifi.com/
But i have no idea if the owner wants to push it as it seems not complete (I don't think you can order from this website).
The lii audio situation outside of china is a mess for non chinese speaking people.
But i have no idea if the owner wants to push it as it seems not complete (I don't think you can order from this website).
The lii audio situation outside of china is a mess for non chinese speaking people.
even a 2inch compression driver is limit past 10K , i had a 12 inch full range driver with Wizzer cone sounds very good alone but you have to deal with dirty highs ..i wouldnt take anyone who sells 15-18" "fullrange" drivers seriously at all. never should such a size be used near even 1khz, any tweeter on the planet would destroy it. there are also cheap selenium compression driver mids to make it a real 3-way with far better performence.
I personaly prefer the term wide frequency instead of the full range. In french we use large bande which stand for wide frequency.
Full range belongs to headphones...
Full range belongs to headphones...
I am not saying 100% sure but seems Lii Audio use decimeter instead of cm for the unites means 1800 cm square for the woofer. I use the chinese website.Well, I for one would be interested to know how it's possible to have a 21in woofer with an Sd of 384cm2.😉
As usual with Lii units (whatever nominal company or otherwise), the spec., on the occasions it is consistent with itself, doesn't actually make any sense whatsoever.
Lii Audio Xizi Trumpet Glory W-21(21"HIFI WOOFER Speaker)
Technical Parameters
Resonate Frequency fs:25hz
Frequency Range:25-3khz
Sensitivity (1w/1m) :98dB
Nominal lmpedance:8Ω
Rated Power:200w
Shortterm Maximum Power:800w
Total Quality Factor ,Qts:0.46
Voice Coil Diameter: 100mm
Magnet Diameter: 220mm
Magneric:Ceramic Y38
Equivalen Air Volume to Cms,Vas:1148L
Mechanical Quality Factor,Qms:1.873
Nominal Diameter:542mm
Net Weight:25kg
Grade: 2
A 6.5 inch driver is rated sd13.260 so would make sense to be 132 cm square.
If that were the case, then a/ not for the first time, it seems like they're putting out different data sets for the same driver, b/ in the first instance it would be an Sd of 3,840cm2, which is ridiculous for a 21in woofer (their data sheet, nobody else's), and c/ 1,800cm2 is itself a bit of a stretch for a driver of that category these days, with most falling < 1,700cm2. Nobody else is Peter Perfection either, and I'm not suggesting they are, but there does seem to be some significant issues with the published data on these units.I am not saying 100% sure but seems Lii Audio use decimeter instead of cm for the unites means 1800 cm square for the woofer. I use the chinese website.
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