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this was a couple of days after even he had used the words murder, rape and torture and I hadn't replied he sent me a private message in a far more understanding tone and we had a reasonable chat. All very depressing to be honest.
What's wrong with using the words "murder, rape and torture" to talk about the killing, forced insemination and violent ill-treatment of animals. I assume you think there is something wrong with hearing those words otherwise I doubt you'd mention it as something to judge the guy's character by... If it were humans being treated the same iit would definately be murder, rape and torture so why not call it that for animals in a philosphical and civil discussion?
Can I ask what your motivation was for going on there? And did it not occur to you that many of people go on vegan forums exactly to start arguments whilst falsely pretending to be "just asking a question! My god, I didn't expect it to be met with such violent language and extremism! [Whilst actually I did want to goad you into that reaction to get a rise and troll you all] "
I'm sure you were just being naive and innocent but surely it's a basic thing to know?
I'm not vegan but even just peope asking about me being vegetarian, you can quickly tell the genuine interest and the "what's your problem with the things I do?" line of enquiry!
What if you don't crave animal products? Those types of vegans do exist, you know. It's not all self sacrifice for the greater good.Burn the calories...you can eat anything you crave for...
That (bold) is if humans and animals are equal. I'm not certain about yours but in some people's mind, the two species are equal.What's wrong with using the words "murder, rape and torture" to talk about the killing, forced insemination and violent ill-treatment of animals. I assume you think there is something wrong with hearing those words otherwise I doubt you'd mention it as something to judge the guy's character by... If it were humans being treated the same iit would definately be murder, rape and torture so why not call it that for animals in a philosphical and civil discussion?
I think it's more about what you say. I don't see how your own diet in your own domain would trigger such interest.I'm not vegan but even just peope asking about me being vegetarian, you can quickly tell the genuine interest and the "what's your problem with the things I do?" line of enquiry!
Self suppressed urge perhaps?What if you don't crave animal products? Those types of vegans do exist, you know.
The use of those words is a very calculated, obviously. The end justifies the means again, rather predictable though. I think the activist's record is stuck now, they need to come up with new ideas like cooperation rather than confrontation, although, confrontation is probably more financially lucrative.
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If it were humans being treated the same iit would definately be murder, rape and torture so why not call it that for animals in a philosphical and civil discussion?
Because than w would have to go all the way and call it that when it occurs between different animal species.
If I'm being called a murderer when I eat venison than a pack of wolves must also be called murderers when they eat a deer.
Just ask the deer and while you've got his ear ask him if he'd rather be shot when he least suspects it or if he likes to be run ragged and be partially eaten before he dies better.
Some S&M deer may surprise you with the answer.Just ask the deer and while you've got his ear ask him if he'd rather be shot when he least suspects it or if he likes to be run ragged and be partially eaten before he dies better.
That would be those who like it, but don't eat it. The faux meat products are for them.Self suppressed urge perhaps?
But there isn't always an urge to suppress. So no self suppression.
In terms of natural urge, we all have it. Some people don't like raw fish (ahem... seen earlier on this thread) but if they get hungry enough they will have second thought.That would be those who like it, but don't eat it. The faux meat products are for them.
But there isn't always an urge to suppress. So no self suppression.
So there is "urge" and there is "day-to-day urge"? What's the difference?You call that an urge, but it isn't. It's like saying we all have the urge to eat maggots or cockroaches. We don't. If we are starving, we might. But it's not a normal day-to-day urge.
What if you don't crave animal products? Those types of vegans do exist, you know. It's not all self sacrifice for the greater good.
yes, you are correct. People should be left to make their own choice.
Hi, sumotan, have you not seen anything like that before? What made the biggest impression on you, and what did it make you think?
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