Assuming this is a reply to my post, why would I go through this much effort asking if I already know what you meant?
I was discussing the "urge" but you injected the term "day-to-day urge". Please clarify what you were trying to say.
That was 2010. Any updates in 8 years?
I've heard of a movement like this in the USA but there was a political force involved in it. Guess who / what organization was behind it...
As I've said,
I should have added, "animals and plants good".Humans bad, animals good.
From what I can gather organs are used but not whole animals (frogs)
Stop animal dissection in schools say PETA
"Although animal dissection returned to the A-level curriculum in 2015 after a 30-year hiatus, it’s neither compulsory nor the best teaching approach."
That's A level, I dissected frogs late 70's must have been when I was about 14
Stop animal dissection in schools say PETA
"Although animal dissection returned to the A-level curriculum in 2015 after a 30-year hiatus, it’s neither compulsory nor the best teaching approach."
That's A level, I dissected frogs late 70's must have been when I was about 14
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Maybe... But the comment I responded to was a duck.... And people often are more attached to fluffy toys or made up animals than anything else....
We really know very little though - we don't even understand our own consciousness, let alone have the capability of deciding what else has such a thing. So, where do we draw the line? Fish? Insects? Plants?
[Caveat - I'm a meat eater, but only from local farm sources where I am well aware of the care taken]
Wait, humans may be bad depending on who you ask but animals aren't that good after all. 
Animals that kill their own kind.
Animals that kill their own kind.
You know perfectly well what I was saying, you simply want to belabor it. It isn't amusing.
You say the urge to eat meat is a suppressed urge. I say it is not, no urge exists in me. There is no urge. I doubt that's unique to me. Make all the counter claims you want, they change nothing.
I should probably stop posting here. 40 years of the same tired old arguments has left me jaded. None of the ideas or arguments are new or unique. It's like posting in a thread about the wonderful sound of silver cables. We've heard it all before, and the arguments don't get any fresher with repetition.
Please read carefully before reacting, the following is what I wrote.
"In terms of natural urge, we all have it. Some people don't like raw fish (ahem... seen earlier on this thread) but if they get hungry enough they will have second thought."
The key phrases are "natural urge" and "get hungry enough".
This is what I think. The old hippie made some sense to me!
We don't know is the reality, and when the vegan guy asked him what he should do he wasn't interested in the slightest in telling him
Assuming that is your response to my post, your opinion becomes the concluding verdict? I would be OK with that if you can cite peer reviewed scientific study supporting your conclusion, which I doubt will be posted.
One of the basic instincts among all living animals is the urge to feed in order to survive.
Poor argument. Obviously not everyone has the urge, as all you had to do was post that to immediately find someone who does not. If it was so easy to find someone without the urge, what does that say?
Anyway, it's an old argument - just another of many. Sorry to be harsh, but your claim is stale and somewhat insulting. As I said, I've been around all these same old arguments for years, and have gotten jaded. If you feel these are fresh arguments that you want to pursue, I'm probably not your guy. Too much BTDT
My personal thoughts Gents, at the end of the day, we should just respect the choices that every individual makes, after all we all have different thoughts, different up bringing, different cultures etc. Where to draw the line you say, I for one am not sure cause there’s bound to be lots of different views & contradictions. Me being Chinese, if I were to look into vegetarians, I too would have lots of questions & doubts
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This is what I think. The old hippie made some sense to me!
I am guessing the vegan bloke must have walked , ridden a bicycle and paddled a canoe to that country to hand out samples because flying there would have certainly negated any of his planet saving gains from being vegan.And if he did ride a bike or walk how many creatures did he squash on the way?
And maybe accidentally bashed several squid and jellyfish to death with his paddle too!
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