Be honest . This thread is chock full of BS.
Oh yes, it is. That’s why it is in the entertainment forum section.
OK, you dont "believe", you know.How is that not clear.
It is not a question of belief or support for any alien ‘theories’ present. This is something I know that it happened from sources that I could absolutely trust. It was not something from this earth. It was alien. Where from, nobody has a clue.
It is interesting that the same year, similar objects were, for the first time, spotted all around the world, but nowhere from close distance.
So, I don’t have to ‘believe’, I have information that enables me to accept that some UFO sightings could be real, although 99.9999 % of today’s ‘information’ about this phenomenon is pure garbage influenced by popular media and desire to earn some money on public interest or hype. I would slap my face after looking at some modern ‘documentary’.
Is that the correct understanding?
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Close enough.OK, you dont "believe", you know.
Is that the correct understanding?
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Correct understanding is that I know for this single event that it happened. I don’t have to believe that something like that could happen on earth, I know it’s possible.
This doesn’t extend to granted support of all weird alien theories and various sighting reports or YT videos. Just knowledge that something of that could be real but almost certainly is not and that we can’t know.
Scientific approach above all if proof is required.
Who suggested alien comms using other than physics as we understand it? That one escaped my attention..I find interesting the pervasive suggestion the alien may not use means to communicate as we understand physics would provide yet we limit them by our understanding of it, ie: c
Okay then, bearing in mind the thread title, let me ask the obvious question: why do we still not know or care that people - especially commercial airline pilots - are having these hallucinations?Simply delirious - that's the most probable I'm afraid.
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Similar to hand-waiving as to the lack of clear images of UFOs in the year 2020: how have still not found a way to screen commercial airline pilots to ensure they do not jeopardize the safety of the passengers with these delusions?
Wrong. Eyewitness testimony is must certainly circumstantial evidence.Claims aren't evidence.
Beyond that, in the classical model of the scientific method, observation itself is a requisite to forming a hypothesis.
How do you mean ‘chock full of BS’?I believe something happened. Based on anecdotal evidence, I can not even begin to explain why it happened. Like so much that is not understood, I remain stubbornly agnostic.
Be honest . This thread is chock full of BS.
It’s an uncorroborated account. I’m surprised that if it came back for a number of days, they did not get others to witness it or ask the authorities to investigate.Yes, it was grand and very unlikely event bit it did happen. I’m not supporting or peddling any aliens or UFO theories. I’m not a member of any forum or group supporting such various claims. I don’t care for them.
Post #1502 is a simple dry description of events told by my father and his stern teacher (BTW she didn’t care a f word for aliens or UFO’s). Where do you find “probabilities, specious claims, and whataboutism“ there?
Nothing strange there. It was at the end of 1944. and happened in the small village 60 km north of Croatian capital Zagreb. Authorities were occupied with the war effort. That glowing balls were showing only at the evenings, when people stayed at home if possible. Surely, many saw strange lights in the fields but simply dismissed that, as it was war and you had more pressing concerns. It was the same with my father’s teacher that pulled those, as interesting event, many years after.It’s an uncorroborated account. I’m surprised that if it came back for a number of days, they did not get others to witness it or ask the authorities to investigate.
Yes, especially for fast occurring events. It’s very different when you have hours for leisure observation.Circumstantial evidence = anecdotes.
Eyewitnesses are generally very unreliable.
How do you mean ‘chock full of BS’?
All I accept of claims like this is that something happened. Without further corroboration, and an evidence based explanation, that's where it ends for me. I will never believe any claims of otherworldly or supernatural phenomena unless given reasonable evidence to do so. "I don't know" isn't a reasonable reason to believe or even consider such claims. This is Religious Apologetics 101 Fallacy Number One: "We don't know, therefore God."
I just stop at "We don't know." Everything else I file under BS. That is the agnostic perspective. The root word is "gnostic" which means relating to knowledge. "Agnostic" literally means "I don't know" which is what I say when I don't know. I don't need xombies and hobgoblins to fill the gaps.
I don’t disagree with any of that, however, the assertion was that eyewitness testimony is not evidence, which is is incorrect.Circumstantial evidence = anecdotes.
Eyewitnesses are generally very unreliable.
Yes Eddie, it’s called poisoning the well.Be honest . This thread is chock full of BS.
In my experience, skeptics are just as likely as true-believers to invoke ET, except they do it make a mockery of the subject. The difference is that true believers cannot be helped whereas so-called rationalists should be capable of knowing better.
I am very interested in evolution, geology and the early Earth history, so discussing aliens in the context of this sort of thing, and knowing other potentially multicellular life supporting planets would have had a similar journey to ours up until say 500 million yrs ago is a good discussion. Because then we can let science inform the discussion, and not conjecture.
And what about instances from the 1940/50s where there are radar returns corroborating the visual account?I don't think they are hallucinations but more type glare or other optical phenomenon.
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Did they now? If they really did I suppose there was something. A bird? An aeroplane?
80 years old sh*t..... give it up... wait for the real stuff instead - be sure they are coming and when they do - there will be no argument about it.
They will be nice, reach out for a handshake and say... Hallo!
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80 years old sh*t..... give it up... wait for the real stuff instead - be sure they are coming and when they do - there will be no argument about it.
They will be nice, reach out for a handshake and say... Hallo!
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