I'm reading this thread and it's making me slap my face. The whole obsession with "aliens" is exactly like religion to me; take the vaguest "evidence" possible and extrapolate it into the most absurd and far fetched claims imaginable.
I'll give aliens and UFOs the same consideration as religion and "God" claims: show me 100% unambiguous evidence of your claims or else I will summarily reject them. All your pie in the sky claims, hand waving, and foot stomping will not budge me. Science and only science is my criteria for believing anything.
It's your right to believe in a magical sky cop or little green men. But don't feel bad when rational people ridicule you. You're asking for it.
Eddie, don’t be so fast with your conclusions. I believe in no God nor any aliens! Claiming so is preposterous.
I believe in Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Yes, it's a strategy to stay sane and dont loose contact with reality. Note however thy my post did not contain any "Ridicule, scorn and insults" - it was perhaps your feeling of being questioned?
I’m sure that many witnesses have suffered worse than that, when decided to share their story.
You have absolutely truthful description of extraordinary events, but you can come only with explanation that my father and his teacher were delirious (or probably mentally ill?). Oh, you forgot even simpler explanation – I made up this story. Most satisfying answer indeed. One can continue his existence citing probability numbers and millions of years span required for intelligent life to emerge.
Oh well, this thread is not for any serious discussion, rather for fooling around. My bad. Realizing the error of my ways, my next post will be in the appropriate fashion.
Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. None presented.
Mixed with a healthy dose of Occam Razor led to the conclusion.
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How do you makeEddie, don’t be so fast with your conclusions. I believe in no God nor any aliens! Claiming so is preposterous.
I believe in Flying Spaghetti Monster.
"To my knowledge that is single unique direct observation of alien probes, Foo Fighters, made from very close distance and for several days. He was able to follow them by foot and observe...."
and
"I believe ..... nor any aliens!"
add up?
Preposterous?
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I’ve read it. I remain skeptical in the absence of any corroborating data. Sorry, but that’s the way science works.
The fact that life takes billions of yrs to evolve shouldn’t surprise you. Or the fact that intelligent life is rare. Or that we can use math to calculate these things.
I’m sure that many witnesses have suffered worse than that, when decided to share their story.
You have absolutely truthful description of extraordinary events, but you can come only with explanation that my father and his teacher were delirious (or probably mentally ill?). Oh, you forgot even simpler explanation – I made up this story. Most satisfying answer indeed. One can continue his existence citing probability numbers and millions of years span required for intelligent life to emerge.
Oh well, this thread is not for any serious discussion, rather for fooling around. My bad. Realizing the error of my ways, my next post will be in the appropriate fashion.
What do you want us to do? Say all this science, math and probability stuff is nonsense and just ‘believe’?
The standards for PROOF in science (and especially the STEM sciences) is extremely high.
Occasionally, nature has already determined what form best follows some given function.
How is that not clear.
It is not a question of belief or support for any alien ‘theories’ present. This is something I know that it happened from sources that I could absolutely trust. It was not something from this earth. It was alien. Where from, nobody has a clue.
It is interesting that the same year, similar objects were, for the first time, spotted all around the world, but nowhere from close distance.
So, I don’t have to ‘believe’, I have information that enables me to accept that some UFO sightings could be real, although 99.9999 % of today’s ‘information’ about this phenomenon is pure garbage influenced by popular media and desire to earn some money on public interest or hype. I would slap my face after looking at some modern ‘documentary’.
It’s perfectly fine that you are skeptical. I would be also. There could be no corroborating data in circumstances described. I repeat that I accept only scientific approach if proof is required.
I didn’t present this story as a ‘proof’ and this thread is for sure not scientific.
Claims aren't evidence.
Lots of people have "seen God" and they sincerely believe it. However, I don't believe their anecdotal evidence for such a grand and frankly unlikely claim. Furthermore, I don't claim with 100% certainty that people are wrong about their "god" (or aliens) claim. I just don't buy it.
Your arguments (probabilities, specious claims, and whataboutism) are 100% the same arguments that religious apologists use to peddle their religions. These arguments only annoy me and do nothing to convice me. So I put them where they belong - in the rubbish.
Eddie, don’t be so fast with your conclusions. I believe in no God nor any aliens! Claiming so is preposterous.
I believe in Flying Spaghetti Monster.
He boiled for our sins. Ramen I say.
Yes, it was grand and very unlikely event bit it did happen. I’m not supporting or peddling any aliens or UFO theories. I’m not a member of any forum or group supporting such various claims. I don’t care for them.
Post #1502 is a simple dry description of events told by my father and his stern teacher (BTW she didn’t care a f word for aliens or UFO’s). Where do you find “probabilities, specious claims, and whataboutism“ there?