On internet I didn't found any mlportant information on it... The best information I've found is in the book "Les Haut-Parleurs" from Jean Hiraga, and there is a very interesting article from Ernst Spiteri in the old french magazine "l'Audiophile".
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Hugues
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Hugues
Yes, this is blatthaller, needs a lot of power to work... (magnetic coil). And the diaphragm moves in flexion, not in piston...
But I would be curious to listen to it
But I would be curious to listen to it
This one stands in the technical museum in Tokyo and they still use it for demonstration. The one who made the picture says it sounds fine. Maybe when you are on Japan tour with your orchestra.
I'd just go back from japan, if I known...
Just a parenthese : they have some amazing concert hall, we played in Tokyo International Forum, in a more than 5000 people hall.... Amazing...
Hugues
Just a parenthese : they have some amazing concert hall, we played in Tokyo International Forum, in a more than 5000 people hall.... Amazing...
Hugues
el`Ol said:Another planar fullranger
Looks like a Droid out of Star Wars....
dave
carlosfm said:
Seems to be an AER with different magnet. AERs are are used either rearloaded or with woofer.
el`Ol said:This one stands in the technical museum in Tokyo and they still use it for demonstration. The one who made the picture says it sounds fine. Maybe when you are on Japan tour with your orchestra.
Here's some write up on perhaps the world first ribbon speakers...
http://www.thomas-schick.com/Japan.htm
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Rudolf said:
Could you give any source where this phenomenon is explained in more detail?
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el`Ol said:Seems to be an AER
Some stuff crossed my desk that indicated that AER had gone out of business & that these are the same designs by a fresh company... don't know how true that is or the whole story.
dave
planet10 said:Some stuff crossed my desk that indicated that AER had gone out of business & that these are the same designs by a fresh company... don't know how true that is or the whole story.
dave
AFAIK Bert Doppenberg of ORIS fame is quite familiar with the AER founder. I would follow his explanation or ask him for a more precise statement:
http://www.diy-systems.com/wwwboard/forum_entry.php?id=9607
The thread seems a bit confusing, but Berts last statement is definitive.
Rudolf
Rudolf said:AFAIK Bert Doppenberg of ORIS fame is quite familiar with the AER founder. I would follow his explanation or ask him for a more precise statement:
thanx ... i was one of the ones getting the emailed newsletter... reading between the lines, i'd guess that FR Speakers was a silent partner or more likely subcontract supplier for AER and wwhen AER didn't pay their bills.... (pure speculation on my part).
It doesn't really impact me either way, no way could i afford the drivers any way.
dave
planet10 said:It doesn't really impact me either way, no way could i afford the drivers any way.
dave
I had the chance to listen to Berts latest OBs last weekend at a hifi fair in Germany. There were some Visaton B200s next door (although not in OBs). Some people liked the B200s more - when sitting in the sweet spot. But IMHO the AER OBs were the winner of the show.
Rudolf
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For me the question is, in your opinion was the difference between the Visatons and AERs sufficient to justify the price difference? Price is, unfortunately, still a factor for me in determining the "utimate".
For me the question is, in your opinion was the difference between the Visatons and AERs sufficient to justify the price difference? Price is, unfortunately, still a factor for me in determining the "utimate".
johninCR said:
For me the question is, in your opinion was the difference between the Visatons and AERs sufficient to justify the price difference? Price is, unfortunately, still a factor for me in determining the "utimate".
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder! You never know what goes on in peoples minds then.😀
johninCR said:... in your opinion was the difference between the Visatons and AERs sufficient to justify the price difference?
A clear and definite "NO" as long as one has to justify a price for himself instead of simply cashing out.

This is a fine case of diminuishing return:
The 2.5fold price* of the "Quasar" dipole (3 drivers per side=1800 US$) compared to a pair of B200 plus woofers (Visaton Solitude =1500 US$ for a pair including filter components and material) results in an audible difference, which not everybody would define as "better". For my taste the AER drivers are the benchmark in fullrange drivers, but 5% less performance for less than half the price is sufficient for me.
Rudolf
* All prices derived from Euro prices in Germany
And keep in mind, that the electronic chain driving the Quasars (tube amps for the AERs) was at least 3 times more expensive than the set driving the Solitudes.
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