Nelson,
They quoted me $425 a pair. for the Lyecos, abit dear for me to bite right now.
All,
Based on an earlier, long and winding thread about Norbert's experience with the Ciare CH250, I ordered a pair and use them on a 1050X650 baffle with the driver mounted 29/29cm from upper, inside corner. This recipe of Norbert's works really well. Once worked in, she's a true music maker, no doubt. With some contouring, done in the digital, it can really shine. I love it.
I got mine from www.spectrumaudio.de but I know others have received theirs from the US Dist, Jack Arnott at
www.assistanceaudio.com for about $90/pr... Look also at the tasty Ciare and BMS coaxials. These I find highly interesting for future OB consideration, and would welcome any thoughts on as well.
I would also like to know, Mr Pass, if there are any plans for a future "F2" iteration. I know Mr Ed Sch. swears by his as well as TC, for the Sigmahorns....
They quoted me $425 a pair. for the Lyecos, abit dear for me to bite right now.
All,
Based on an earlier, long and winding thread about Norbert's experience with the Ciare CH250, I ordered a pair and use them on a 1050X650 baffle with the driver mounted 29/29cm from upper, inside corner. This recipe of Norbert's works really well. Once worked in, she's a true music maker, no doubt. With some contouring, done in the digital, it can really shine. I love it.
I got mine from www.spectrumaudio.de but I know others have received theirs from the US Dist, Jack Arnott at
www.assistanceaudio.com for about $90/pr... Look also at the tasty Ciare and BMS coaxials. These I find highly interesting for future OB consideration, and would welcome any thoughts on as well.
I would also like to know, Mr Pass, if there are any plans for a future "F2" iteration. I know Mr Ed Sch. swears by his as well as TC, for the Sigmahorns....
question for thorsten
Hi Kuei san,
I have the norelco 9762m's, before I place them in the standard open baffle seen here,
http://www.sitecenter.dk/otc/nss-fo...s AD5200 AD4200 Norelco 9762M Open Baffle.JPG
Is there anything you can suggest, to get them to sound as ok as they can. I know they're not brilliant but they're a stop gap until I can afford the superior field coils, or whatever you decide to use when the time comes (another disciple)..........
any suggestions and advice would be humbly (in the japansese honarable style) appreciated..........
Thanks
Raja
Hi Kuei san,
I have the norelco 9762m's, before I place them in the standard open baffle seen here,
http://www.sitecenter.dk/otc/nss-fo...s AD5200 AD4200 Norelco 9762M Open Baffle.JPG
Is there anything you can suggest, to get them to sound as ok as they can. I know they're not brilliant but they're a stop gap until I can afford the superior field coils, or whatever you decide to use when the time comes (another disciple)..........
any suggestions and advice would be humbly (in the japansese honarable style) appreciated..........
Thanks
Raja
I am using Beyma 8AG/n's in thin wall bass reflex cabinets (80 liter). I used them in OBs, but bass below 100 Hz was very thin. In these boxes they can go easily to 50 Hz, although their Fs is 105 Hz. I am still playing with stuffing and port dimensions to get rid of some "box" sound. OBs have really a nice sound that is difficult to achieve with a box.
Miguel
Miguel
Monacor SPH-60X ? (26€/pc)
First I wouldn't even mention this (I ordered 4 of them to play around with in a 9 liter BR. And also one SPH-212 as BR subwoofer. Drivers should arrive next week.) But the Ciare CH250's are in the same price ballpark, so ...
anyone has some exp with these SPH-60X drivers in BR? I'll try them first in cardbord OB, and then in sealed cardbord. Then I'll build my design.
First I wouldn't even mention this (I ordered 4 of them to play around with in a 9 liter BR. And also one SPH-212 as BR subwoofer. Drivers should arrive next week.) But the Ciare CH250's are in the same price ballpark, so ...
anyone has some exp with these SPH-60X drivers in BR? I'll try them first in cardbord OB, and then in sealed cardbord. Then I'll build my design.
dmason said:
The F2 exists, and production is awaiting the screener who
is doing the faceplates. General availability early June. The
F2 is different than the F1 in being a single-ended current
source, with a 2nd harmonic character and high impedance
RCA input only. The output wattage is 5 watts into 8 ohms,
but the bias is much higher, so that it will drive 4 ohms well.
The output impedance has been lowered to 15 ohms, as that
has been a much more popular figure.
More information soon.
Here is their website home page....
http://www.lyeco.com.tw/
Never heard of these guys, but they have some really interesting products. Looks like they make "dynavox" brand. The have (pat.)
Huge Voicecoil Technology How can we compete with that? might as well just give up...
So "they" is the manufacturer in Taiwan?
http://www.lyeco.com.tw/
Never heard of these guys, but they have some really interesting products. Looks like they make "dynavox" brand. The have (pat.)
Huge Voicecoil Technology How can we compete with that? might as well just give up...
So "they" is the manufacturer in Taiwan?
I've not direct experience with this driver, but I used sph-68x/ad in Nelson pass's jlow. This is a good driver, and I think SPH-60X is good too...
Do someone get experience with monacor SP-200x, looks like very linear until 8-10kHz, can rich 70Hz in sealed box (53L) and 40Hz in BR (70L, 41Hz), not bad...
Thanks
SP-200X
>>Do someone get experience with monacor SP-200x, looks like very linear until 8-10kHz, can rich 70Hz in sealed box (53L) and 40Hz in BR (70L, 41Hz), not bad...
Hi,
I'm using this driver in 47 liter MLTL, f3-45Hz, designed in Martin King's tool. I use supertweeter - Eminence APT 80 crossed with 0.16 uF (if I remember right). I think it works really well, especially considering its price. Tweeter is needed IMO.
Here is some interesting project using this driver:
[http://www.audiodiskussion.de/foren/fullrange/msg.php?idx=17438]
I want to try it on OB and do some mods to this driver.
I have a webpage describing my speakers: [http://blackmoore.szm.sk/] but it is in slovak language... 😕 You can look at the photos, but they don't work now
I'll fix it in near future... 
Good luck Martin
>>Do someone get experience with monacor SP-200x, looks like very linear until 8-10kHz, can rich 70Hz in sealed box (53L) and 40Hz in BR (70L, 41Hz), not bad...
Hi,
I'm using this driver in 47 liter MLTL, f3-45Hz, designed in Martin King's tool. I use supertweeter - Eminence APT 80 crossed with 0.16 uF (if I remember right). I think it works really well, especially considering its price. Tweeter is needed IMO.
Here is some interesting project using this driver:
[http://www.audiodiskussion.de/foren/fullrange/msg.php?idx=17438]
I want to try it on OB and do some mods to this driver.
I have a webpage describing my speakers: [http://blackmoore.szm.sk/] but it is in slovak language... 😕 You can look at the photos, but they don't work now
I'll fix it in near future... Good luck Martin
I have just received my Ciare 250's and extra magnets.
I hadn't given it any thought but do you just add the extra magnets on to the back of the rear plate? 😕
I hadn't given it any thought but do you just add the extra magnets on to the back of the rear plate? 😕
Extra magnet on backplate..
Make sure you attach the magnet with the right orientation. You should feel the magnets repelling eachother until it is really close, then it will stick to the backplate.
Make sure you attach the magnet with the right orientation. You should feel the magnets repelling eachother until it is really close, then it will stick to the backplate.
You should also use some kind of glue to keep it in place.
Epoxy or some other glue that sticks to metal.
Regards,
Peter
Epoxy or some other glue that sticks to metal.
Regards,
Peter
Thanks Peter,
My natural instinct was to put the magents on in the way that they are attracted to the back plate. I have changed them over and see that they do 'stick' to each other once they are in contact! 😉
My natural instinct was to put the magents on in the way that they are attracted to the back plate. I have changed them over and see that they do 'stick' to each other once they are in contact! 😉
SP-200X
Hi hugobors,
I posted my impresions with this driver. You can find it few posts back in this thread (just look at previous page...) You miss it?
Hi hugobors,
I posted my impresions with this driver. You can find it few posts back in this thread (just look at previous page...) You miss it?
Hi soonqsc,
I´ve scanned the graphs but somehow have problems with imageshack. Can you drop me a mail then I´ll send them to you.
(Veravox 3,5S,5X and Visaton B200; last three together on one page)
At the weekend I was on a hifi-show next to my place and I finally had a chance to listen to some really cool speakers.
Room acoustics and chosen cabinets do play a role of course but anyway here´s my impressions:
Jordan JX-92 "the wall" got lost in the room and had not much "life" to it. Actually a bit disappointing after all I´ve read.
Visaton´s B200 played in the "Solitude" but was even better together with 2*BG20 from Visaton (and cheaper).Well tuned and big dynamics. Great speaker!!!
Veravox 5X played with a supertweeter EB surface slim in "little wing", a mini Onken-cabinet. The 5X has got the best resolution of all the fullrangers I´ve heard. (Dynamics were slightly better with the bigger speakers though.) Nils Lofgren never sounded that good!
Moth´s audio cicada is similar to the bigger Fostex speakers; quite nice but too expensive for it´s sound.
The "quasar" from bd-design.nl had a AER MD2B working in it, together with two 15"-basses in open baffle.
Financally out of reach (together with amplifiers well over 10000€) but certainly the best "fullranger" at the show.
greets
I´ve scanned the graphs but somehow have problems with imageshack. Can you drop me a mail then I´ll send them to you.
(Veravox 3,5S,5X and Visaton B200; last three together on one page)
At the weekend I was on a hifi-show next to my place and I finally had a chance to listen to some really cool speakers.
Room acoustics and chosen cabinets do play a role of course but anyway here´s my impressions:
Jordan JX-92 "the wall" got lost in the room and had not much "life" to it. Actually a bit disappointing after all I´ve read.
Visaton´s B200 played in the "Solitude" but was even better together with 2*BG20 from Visaton (and cheaper).Well tuned and big dynamics. Great speaker!!!
Veravox 5X played with a supertweeter EB surface slim in "little wing", a mini Onken-cabinet. The 5X has got the best resolution of all the fullrangers I´ve heard. (Dynamics were slightly better with the bigger speakers though.) Nils Lofgren never sounded that good!
Moth´s audio cicada is similar to the bigger Fostex speakers; quite nice but too expensive for it´s sound.
The "quasar" from bd-design.nl had a AER MD2B working in it, together with two 15"-basses in open baffle.
Financally out of reach (together with amplifiers well over 10000€) but certainly the best "fullranger" at the show.
greets
Set the pictures up as CMYK-colour. Didn´t like it..
here you go
The Veravox3 is a fine little 3" BTW.
Can only compare to Tangband W3-871S but can tell you it´s worlds apart and just so much better. The V3 was shown as PC-speaker and in combination with a 6"-woofer and 6dB-XO. (50€ per side and just great).
will put a link up as soon as the documentation of the show is ready
greets
here you go
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
The Veravox3 is a fine little 3" BTW.
Can only compare to Tangband W3-871S but can tell you it´s worlds apart and just so much better. The V3 was shown as PC-speaker and in combination with a 6"-woofer and 6dB-XO. (50€ per side and just great).
will put a link up as soon as the documentation of the show is ready
greets
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