Can you change in the program the hfe scale, for example to 350 - 450?Real devices don't always perform as the datasheet predicts.
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Yes Locky Z's tracer makes that super easy -- because it's a software input, and software is quite flexible. Either before, or after, running a trace on the Locky Z, you can move your mouse to the plot window and click the Y-axis (or the X-axis). Then his software pops up a dialog window that lets you specify an Axis-min and Axis-max of your own choosing.
For the plot attached to post #118 of this thread, I clicked the X axis and chose (min=0, max=120mA) then I clicked the Y axis and chose (min=200, max=450). The transistor's datasheet predicted that Beta would swing between 70 and 220, but the physical transistor itself had a Beta which stayed in the narrower range (350 < Beta < 410).
For the plot attached to post #118 of this thread, I clicked the X axis and chose (min=0, max=120mA) then I clicked the Y axis and chose (min=200, max=450). The transistor's datasheet predicted that Beta would swing between 70 and 220, but the physical transistor itself had a Beta which stayed in the narrower range (350 < Beta < 410).
That clearifies all. The betatracer should cope with currents >> 600mA, up to 1A to make the descending slope visible.Look at the datasheet.
Add a variable emitter degeneration to the circuit ?
The MPS transistor with and without emitter degeneration:
Looks like it linearizes the left side of the mountain top only, the right side even suffers a bit.
Typo in the pictures 😵
The MPS transistor with and without emitter degeneration:
Looks like it linearizes the left side of the mountain top only, the right side even suffers a bit.
Typo in the pictures 😵
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A simple logarithmic generator.
The 'generator for the generator' is a linear triangle generator, 2.8Vpp & +1.4Vdc offset, to drive the four diode-res segments.
I choose the resistor values to suit various currents through the diodes: 0.01mA, 0.1mA, 1.0mA and 10mA.
A generic instrumentation amplifier (or a regular INA of your choice) with little gain gives 6Vpp output.
As the oscillator cannot display log scales, only the last high (current-) voltage peak is visible.
It's symmetrical due to the original triangle waveform - a sawtooth (not available in tina) would yield an assymmetrical log signal.
The 'generator for the generator' is a linear triangle generator, 2.8Vpp & +1.4Vdc offset, to drive the four diode-res segments.
I choose the resistor values to suit various currents through the diodes: 0.01mA, 0.1mA, 1.0mA and 10mA.
A generic instrumentation amplifier (or a regular INA of your choice) with little gain gives 6Vpp output.
As the oscillator cannot display log scales, only the last high (current-) voltage peak is visible.
It's symmetrical due to the original triangle waveform - a sawtooth (not available in tina) would yield an assymmetrical log signal.
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Sorry, to me this not looks like log but like antilog.t's symmetrical due to the original triangle waveform
The aim is to generate an exponential 10^x) waveform over more then one decade upwarts from 0.01mA to 10mA, to start with.
I was able to get a sawtooth in the TI-TINA softwareIt's symmetrical due to the original triangle waveform - a sawtooth (not available in tina) would yield an assymmetrical log signal.
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Congratulations on your TINA success. Nobel prize winning physicist Richard Feynman wrote an essay about the process you just experienced: (Amazon link) .
Whoever claimed a sawtooth was not available in TINA, was mistaken.
Whoever claimed a sawtooth was not available in TINA, was mistaken.
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