In my multiamp clone system I use unshielded solid core isolation varnished wire , the kind used for transformers and motors. I go from 2mm diameter for bass to 1,75mm for mid and 1mm for high.
I use them twisted but soon I'm going to try them untwisted.
They drive horns expect for woofers and they sound very good compared to multistrand wire. Very much in the gainclone philosophy with 4,00Euro I wired my four ways system.
Giorgio
I use them twisted but soon I'm going to try them untwisted.
They drive horns expect for woofers and they sound very good compared to multistrand wire. Very much in the gainclone philosophy with 4,00Euro I wired my four ways system.
Giorgio
Fedde, I made my latest interconnects using uninsulated wires that were run through shoe laces and they sound really good!
Obviously speaker cables are (usually) longer than interconnects but you could use a number of laces glued together. That's what I'm intendiing to do with the .4mm wires.
Star-Quad Non-Directional Interconnect.
Take a single strand of telephone wire four times the length of your desired interconnect length.
Preferrably use non-tinned plain copper single strand solid core wire (telephone or Cat-5 wire).
Silver plated copper wire can add a false brightness.
For this example the interconnect cable length is one foot = four feet of single strand wire.
The first two feet of wire goes from Source Active to Load Active and back to the Source Active.
The next two feet go from Source Neutral to Load Neutral and back to the Source Neutral.
These four wires should be placed in star-quad configuration, and twisted as desired.
A sheath tube or braid material can be placed over the outside.
The above suggestion of a hollow shoe lace sounds cheap and practical - thanks Nuuk.
This quad soloution is cheap and easy to make and pays very big sonic dividends - white insulated telephone wire sounds best to my ear.
By ensuring non-directional characteristic, depth imaging is much clearer and more realistic than any other cable that I have auditioned.
Lows, mids and highs are clean, clear and straight in my experience.
Induced noise may occur, but should not usually be a problem - if desired, a woven copper braid may be blaced over the audio conductors, and grounded at one end.
Try it !.
Eric.
Take a single strand of telephone wire four times the length of your desired interconnect length.
Preferrably use non-tinned plain copper single strand solid core wire (telephone or Cat-5 wire).
Silver plated copper wire can add a false brightness.
For this example the interconnect cable length is one foot = four feet of single strand wire.
The first two feet of wire goes from Source Active to Load Active and back to the Source Active.
The next two feet go from Source Neutral to Load Neutral and back to the Source Neutral.
These four wires should be placed in star-quad configuration, and twisted as desired.
A sheath tube or braid material can be placed over the outside.
The above suggestion of a hollow shoe lace sounds cheap and practical - thanks Nuuk.
This quad soloution is cheap and easy to make and pays very big sonic dividends - white insulated telephone wire sounds best to my ear.
By ensuring non-directional characteristic, depth imaging is much clearer and more realistic than any other cable that I have auditioned.
Lows, mids and highs are clean, clear and straight in my experience.
Induced noise may occur, but should not usually be a problem - if desired, a woven copper braid may be blaced over the audio conductors, and grounded at one end.
Try it !.
Eric.
cunning plan
although we have decided that the gainclone does not sound as good with more capacitance - this dosn't really help as is it not really regulating the powersupply, and with the fact that battery run gainclones sound good - it makes me think that having a regulated power supply might be a good idea - if anyone can give me a sutable schematic to use (possably an adaption of a naim amp?) then i will test it out
although we have decided that the gainclone does not sound as good with more capacitance - this dosn't really help as is it not really regulating the powersupply, and with the fact that battery run gainclones sound good - it makes me think that having a regulated power supply might be a good idea - if anyone can give me a sutable schematic to use (possably an adaption of a naim amp?) then i will test it out
Try to find first post by Fred Dieckmann in this thread. He's using regulated PS.
Here: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=144418#post144418
Here: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=144418#post144418
Nobody can have failed to notice that this thread is getting very long and although I have read every post along the way, it is very difficult to find specific topics (especially for anybody new to the thread).
Can I suggest that we start a new topic for speaker cables used with the Gainclone? And which section should we start it in?
Can I suggest that we start a new topic for speaker cables used with the Gainclone? And which section should we start it in?
I agree this thread is getting too long but it does seem like a nice "catch all" thread. Perhaps this thread should be retired as "Part 1" and a new one started with the same name but "part 2". Then people can refer back to part 1 or 2 to minimise searches. Maybe retire the threads a little more frequently.
On the regulated power supply note....it just clicked in that a regulated power supply might be the answer for many of us with Xformers having too much voltage. I have a 29V one....what regulator can I use...ie;with that AC voltage, what regulation voltage can I shoot for? Yes I am too lazy to scan the regulator data sheets....
John S.
On the regulated power supply note....it just clicked in that a regulated power supply might be the answer for many of us with Xformers having too much voltage. I have a 29V one....what regulator can I use...ie;with that AC voltage, what regulation voltage can I shoot for? Yes I am too lazy to scan the regulator data sheets....
John S.
carlmart said:
Carlos, perhaps we misunderstand each other...
My TNT FFRC cable showed on this picture is in fact braided exactly as the one on the TNT website.
However, I don't use this FFRC for my GC, cause I had distortion. Now I use two solid core wires from this telephone cable, shown above, and it really lets deep bass come through, believe it or not, and I can confirm this now after having set up my other speakers which go down to 30Hz.
/Jan
As I was curious about the differences between LM3875 and the LM1875 I decided to build another clone today based on the LM1875. But this time an inverted configuration (I also used other components thus a 1-on-1 comparison is not possible).
because I'm listening to it and find it hard to open up the amp, pictures of it's guts will have to wait until tomorrow. Some more pictures and rest of the story can be found on
my diy-page look under GainClown
(I found myself a nice on/off switch you see, and I need to find a matching knob for the volume control).
Maarten
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
because I'm listening to it and find it hard to open up the amp, pictures of it's guts will have to wait until tomorrow. Some more pictures and rest of the story can be found on
my diy-page look under GainClown
(I found myself a nice on/off switch you see, and I need to find a matching knob for the volume control).Maarten
I think the regulator only works well with a constant load.Dustin Haug said:
It might fluctuate heavily in dynamic music passages with a class B amplifier.
Probably a LM350 integrated regulator or the like are better for big changes in current flow.
On the other side the PSSR of the LM chips might be sufficient to cope with that.
Jens
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