The Well Tempered Master Clock - Building a low phase noise/jitter crystal oscillator

andrea_mori · 2015-01-11 11:02 pm

1st batch - MOQ reached
* - andrea_mori : 7 x 5.6448MHz + 2 x 11.2896MHz + 3 X 22.5792 MHz + 3 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + + 5 x 90.3168 MHz + 5 x 98.304 MHz + 12 x PCB + 6 x daughter board PCB + 10 x adapter board
* - Eldam : 1 x 5.6448MHz + 1 X 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MH + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x PCB + 8 adapter boards
* - esgigt : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 1 x PCB, soldered if possible
* - fralippo : 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB
* - mravinsky : 2 x 11.2896 Mhz + 3 x XO PCB + 3 x Daughter board PCB
* - TNT : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, + 1 x daughter board, all soldered if possible + 4 x adapter board
* - 1audio : 1X5.6448MHz 2x22.5792MHz 2x24.5760MHz 1X45.1584MHz 1X49.152 MHz 1X90.3168MHz 1X98.304MHz+ 1 x PCB
* - randytsuch : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard + 1 x adapter board
- myint67 : 1x11.2896mhz ,1x22.5792,1x45.1584,1x49.152 ,4 PCB ,2xdaughter board , soldered if possible
* - kf_tam : 2x PCB
* - BDL : 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - thorstenlarsen : 2 x 11.2896 MHz + 2 x PCB
- Zoran : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, (soldered or not...) + 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 1 x PCB
* - walangalam : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - AR2: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldering not needed)
* - mcluxun: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard +2x adapter board (soldering if possible)
* - damohpi: 1 x 11.2896 + 1x PCB unsoldered
* - noizas : 2 x 5.6448MHz + 3 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 10 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
- badrisuper : : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - Clsidxxl: 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz+1 x daughter board + 2 x PCB -With Assembly Service and 2 x adapter board
* - zeta4 1x 22.5792Mhz + 1 x PCB (soldering not needed)
* - hirez69: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 33.8688 MHz+ 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 6 x PCB (soldered) + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter
* - palmito : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz; 2 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.
* - gentlevoice: 1 x 22.5792MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1*PCB
* - naimster: 1x 22.5792 MHz + 1x 24.576 MHz + 2x PCB + 1x daughterboard (soldered if possible) + 2x adapter board
* - zenelectro : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x + 1x adapter board + daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Ryssen : 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x PCB soldered
* - flowerpot : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - deanoUK : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Miklos: 1 x 11.2896MHz + 2 x PCB
* - Kannan_s:1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Acko : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB
- tuyen : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Malvin : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
- Marlowe: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 8 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB
- Superdad: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board (soldered if possible)
* - vita:1 x 24.576Mhz + 6 PCB + 2 daughter board
* - ryanj 1 x 22.5792 Mhz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 3 PCB + 1 daughter PCB + 2 adapter PCB
* - justubes 1 x 11.2896 Mhz
* - JethroTull 1x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 PCB (with components, soldered o insoldered, it possible)
* - bson 4x 5.6448MHz + 2x 11.2896MHz + 4x PCB + 2x daughter board
* - jdlvfr 3 x 11.2896MHz
* - jims 2 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz, 4 X PCB, 2 X daughter boards, 4 X adapter
* - spm 1 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.1520 MHz + 4 x pcb + 2 x daughter boards +4 x adaptor pcbs
* - tbrowne: 2 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz
* - iancanada: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 4 x PCB + 2 x daughter board + 2 x adapter board
* - ppap64: 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board(soldered if possible)
- bkdog 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldered if poss)
- carz 1 x 90.3168 Mhz, + 1 x 98.304 Mhz, + 3x pcb, + 3x daughter board
* - triodehunter: 1x 45.1584 MHz + 1x 49.152 MHz + 3x pcb
* - tods : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz ; 4 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.

2nd batch - MOQ not yet reached
* - Miklos: 1 x 16.9344 MHz
- Marlowe: 3 x 16.9344Mhz + 3 x 25MHz
- carz 1x 27MHz
* - 1audio : 1X6.1440MHz
* - mravinsky : 1 x 16.9344Mhz
* - triodehunter: 1x 25.0000 MHz

TNT · 2015-01-12 6:14 am

1st batch - MOQ reached
* - andrea_mori : 7 x 5.6448MHz + 2 x 11.2896MHz + 3 X 22.5792 MHz + 3 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + + 5 x 90.3168 MHz + 5 x 98.304 MHz + 12 x PCB + 6 x daughter board PCB + 10 x adapter board
* - Eldam : 1 x 5.6448MHz + 1 X 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MH + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x PCB + 8 adapter boards
* - esgigt : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 1 x PCB, soldered if possible
* - fralippo : 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB
* - mravinsky : 2 x 11.2896 Mhz + 3 x XO PCB + 3 x Daughter board PCB
* - TNT : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter board
* - 1audio : 1X5.6448MHz 2x22.5792MHz 2x24.5760MHz 1X45.1584MHz 1X49.152 MHz 1X90.3168MHz 1X98.304MHz+ 1 x PCB
* - randytsuch : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard + 1 x adapter board
- myint67 : 1x11.2896mhz ,1x22.5792,1x45.1584,1x49.152 ,4 PCB ,2xdaughter board , soldered if possible
* - kf_tam : 2x PCB
* - BDL : 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - thorstenlarsen : 2 x 11.2896 MHz + 2 x PCB
- Zoran : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, (soldered or not...) + 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 1 x PCB
* - walangalam : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - AR2: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldering not needed)
* - mcluxun: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard +2x adapter board (soldering if possible)
* - damohpi: 1 x 11.2896 + 1x PCB unsoldered
* - noizas : 2 x 5.6448MHz + 3 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 10 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
- badrisuper : : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - Clsidxxl: 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz+1 x daughter board + 2 x PCB -With Assembly Service and 2 x adapter board
* - zeta4 1x 22.5792Mhz + 1 x PCB (soldering not needed)
* - hirez69: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 33.8688 MHz+ 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 6 x PCB (soldered) + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter
* - palmito : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz; 2 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.
* - gentlevoice: 1 x 22.5792MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1*PCB
* - naimster: 1x 22.5792 MHz + 1x 24.576 MHz + 2x PCB + 1x daughterboard (soldered if possible) + 2x adapter board
* - zenelectro : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x + 1x adapter board + daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Ryssen : 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x PCB soldered
* - flowerpot : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - deanoUK : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Miklos: 1 x 11.2896MHz + 2 x PCB
* - Kannan_s:1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Acko : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB
- tuyen : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Malvin : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
- Marlowe: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 8 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB
- Superdad: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board (soldered if possible)
* - vita:1 x 24.576Mhz + 6 PCB + 2 daughter board
* - ryanj 1 x 22.5792 Mhz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 3 PCB + 1 daughter PCB + 2 adapter PCB
* - justubes 1 x 11.2896 Mhz
* - JethroTull 1x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 PCB (with components, soldered o insoldered, it possible)
* - bson 4x 5.6448MHz + 2x 11.2896MHz + 4x PCB + 2x daughter board
* - jdlvfr 3 x 11.2896MHz
* - jims 2 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz, 4 X PCB, 2 X daughter boards, 4 X adapter
* - spm 1 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.1520 MHz + 4 x pcb + 2 x daughter boards +4 x adaptor pcbs
* - tbrowne: 2 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz
* - iancanada: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 4 x PCB + 2 x daughter board + 2 x adapter board
* - ppap64: 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board(soldered if possible)
- bkdog 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldered if poss)
- carz 1 x 90.3168 Mhz, + 1 x 98.304 Mhz, + 3x pcb, + 3x daughter board
* - triodehunter: 1x 45.1584 MHz + 1x 49.152 MHz + 3x pcb
* - tods : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz ; 4 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.

2nd batch - MOQ not yet reached
* - Miklos: 1 x 16.9344 MHz
- Marlowe: 3 x 16.9344Mhz + 3 x 25MHz
- carz 1x 27MHz
* - 1audio : 1X6.1440MHz
* - mravinsky : 1 x 16.9344Mhz
* - triodehunter: 1x 25.0000 MHz

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(removed assembly, added 1 DB)

stijn001 · 2015-01-12 2:21 pm

1st batch - MOQ reached

* - andrea_mori : 7 x 5.6448MHz + 2 x 11.2896MHz + 3 X 22.5792 MHz + 3 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + + 5 x 90.3168 MHz + 5 x 98.304 MHz + 12 x PCB + 6 x daughter board PCB + 10 x adapter board
* - Eldam : 1 x 5.6448MHz + 1 X 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MH + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x PCB + 8 adapter boards
* - esgigt : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 1 x PCB, soldered if possible
* - fralippo : 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB
* - mravinsky : 2 x 11.2896 Mhz + 3 x XO PCB + 3 x Daughter board PCB
* - TNT : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter board
* - 1audio : 1X5.6448MHz 2x22.5792MHz 2x24.5760MHz 1X45.1584MHz 1X49.152 MHz 1X90.3168MHz 1X98.304MHz+ 1 x PCB
* - randytsuch : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard + 1 x adapter board
- myint67 : 1x11.2896mhz ,1x22.5792,1x45.1584,1x49.152 ,4 PCB ,2xdaughter board , soldered if possible
* - kf_tam : 2x PCB
* - BDL : 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - thorstenlarsen : 2 x 11.2896 MHz + 2 x PCB
- Zoran : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, (soldered or not...) + 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 1 x PCB
* - walangalam : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - AR2: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldering not needed)
* - mcluxun: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard +2x adapter board (soldering if possible)
* - damohpi: 1 x 11.2896 + 1x PCB unsoldered
* - noizas : 2 x 5.6448MHz + 3 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 10 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
- badrisuper : : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - Clsidxxl: 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz+1 x daughter board + 2 x PCB -With Assembly Service and 2 x adapter board
* - zeta4 1x 22.5792Mhz + 1 x PCB (soldering not needed)
* - hirez69: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 33.8688 MHz+ 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 6 x PCB (soldered) + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter
* - palmito : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz; 2 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.
* - gentlevoice: 1 x 22.5792MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1*PCB
* - naimster: 1x 22.5792 MHz + 1x 24.576 MHz + 2x PCB + 1x daughterboard (soldered if possible) + 2x adapter board
* - zenelectro : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x + 1x adapter board + daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Ryssen : 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x PCB soldered
* - flowerpot : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - deanoUK : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Miklos: 1 x 11.2896MHz + 2 x PCB
* - Kannan_s:1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Acko : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB
- tuyen : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Malvin : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
- Marlowe: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 8 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB
- Superdad: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board (soldered if possible)
* - vita:1 x 24.576Mhz + 6 PCB + 2 daughter board
* - ryanj 1 x 22.5792 Mhz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 3 PCB + 1 daughter PCB + 2 adapter PCB
* - justubes 1 x 11.2896 Mhz
* - JethroTull 1x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 PCB (with components, soldered o insoldered, it possible)
* - bson 4x 5.6448MHz + 2x 11.2896MHz + 4x PCB + 2x daughter board
* - jdlvfr 3 x 11.2896MHz
* - jims 2 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz, 4 X PCB, 2 X daughter boards, 4 X adapter
* - spm 1 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.1520 MHz + 4 x pcb + 2 x daughter boards +4 x adaptor pcbs
* - tbrowne: 2 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz
* - iancanada: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 4 x PCB + 2 x daughter board + 2 x adapter board
* - ppap64: 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board(soldered if possible)
- bkdog 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldered if poss)
- carz 1 x 90.3168 Mhz, + 1 x 98.304 Mhz, + 3x pcb, + 3x daughter board
* - triodehunter: 1x 45.1584 MHz + 1x 49.152 MHz + 3x pcb
* - tods : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz ; 4 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.

2nd batch - MOQ not yet reached
* - Miklos: 1 x 16.9344 MHz
- Marlowe: 3 x 16.9344Mhz + 3 x 25MHz
- carz 1x 27MHz
* - 1audio : 1X6.1440MHz
* - mravinsky : 1 x 16.9344Mhz
* - triodehunter: 1x 25.0000 MHz
- Stijn001: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 2 PCBs; 2 daughter boards, 2 adapters boards

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basreflex · 2015-01-12 5:32 pm

I just measured an abracon crystal 12.288 ABM3
rs=14 ohms, Q=180k cs=<5f not bad at all ..

andrea_mori · 2015-01-13 1:34 am

For those who love "bricolage" this is the third option to connect to Ian's Dual XO board.
Power supply only should be wired, cannibalizing a couple of daughter board.

noizas · 2015-01-13 6:05 am

Re added 2 x 16.1584 MHz

1st batch - MOQ reached

* - andrea_mori : 7 x 5.6448MHz + 2 x 11.2896MHz + 3 X 22.5792 MHz + 3 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + + 5 x 90.3168 MHz + 5 x 98.304 MHz + 12 x PCB + 6 x daughter board PCB + 10 x adapter board
* - Eldam : 1 x 5.6448MHz + 1 X 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MH + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x PCB + 8 adapter boards
* - esgigt : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 1 x PCB, soldered if possible
* - fralippo : 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB
* - mravinsky : 2 x 11.2896 Mhz + 3 x XO PCB + 3 x Daughter board PCB
* - TNT : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter board
* - 1audio : 1X5.6448MHz 2x22.5792MHz 2x24.5760MHz 1X45.1584MHz 1X49.152 MHz 1X90.3168MHz 1X98.304MHz+ 1 x PCB
* - randytsuch : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard + 1 x adapter board
- myint67 : 1x11.2896mhz ,1x22.5792,1x45.1584,1x49.152 ,4 PCB ,2xdaughter board , soldered if possible
* - kf_tam : 2x PCB
* - BDL : 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - thorstenlarsen : 2 x 11.2896 MHz + 2 x PCB
- Zoran : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, (soldered or not...) + 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 1 x PCB
* - walangalam : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - AR2: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldering not needed)
* - mcluxun: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard +2x adapter board (soldering if possible)
* - damohpi: 1 x 11.2896 + 1x PCB unsoldered
* - noizas : 2 x 5.6448MHz + 3 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 10 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
- badrisuper : : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - Clsidxxl: 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz+1 x daughter board + 2 x PCB -With Assembly Service and 2 x adapter board
* - zeta4 1x 22.5792Mhz + 1 x PCB (soldering not needed)
* - hirez69: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 33.8688 MHz+ 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 6 x PCB (soldered) + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter
* - palmito : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz; 2 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.
* - gentlevoice: 1 x 22.5792MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1*PCB
* - naimster: 1x 22.5792 MHz + 1x 24.576 MHz + 2x PCB + 1x daughterboard (soldered if possible) + 2x adapter board
* - zenelectro : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x + 1x adapter board + daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Ryssen : 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x PCB soldered
* - flowerpot : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - deanoUK : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Miklos: 1 x 11.2896MHz + 2 x PCB
* - Kannan_s:1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Acko : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB
- tuyen : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Malvin : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
- Marlowe: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 8 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB
- Superdad: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board (soldered if possible)
* - vita:1 x 24.576Mhz + 6 PCB + 2 daughter board
* - ryanj 1 x 22.5792 Mhz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 3 PCB + 1 daughter PCB + 2 adapter PCB
* - justubes 1 x 11.2896 Mhz
* - JethroTull 1x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 PCB (with components, soldered o insoldered, it possible)
* - bson 4x 5.6448MHz + 2x 11.2896MHz + 4x PCB + 2x daughter board
* - jdlvfr 3 x 11.2896MHz
* - jims 2 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz, 4 X PCB, 2 X daughter boards, 4 X adapter
* - spm 1 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.1520 MHz + 4 x pcb + 2 x daughter boards +4 x adaptor pcbs
* - tbrowne: 2 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz
* - iancanada: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 4 x PCB + 2 x daughter board + 2 x adapter board
* - ppap64: 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board(soldered if possible)
- bkdog 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldered if poss)
- carz 1 x 90.3168 Mhz, + 1 x 98.304 Mhz, + 3x pcb, + 3x daughter board
* - triodehunter: 1x 45.1584 MHz + 1x 49.152 MHz + 3x pcb
* - tods : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz ; 4 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.

2nd batch - MOQ not yet reached
* - Miklos: 1 x 16.9344 MHz
- Marlowe: 3 x 16.9344Mhz + 3 x 25MHz
- carz 1x 27MHz
* - 1audio : 1X6.1440MHz
* - mravinsky : 1 x 16.9344Mhz
* - triodehunter: 1x 25.0000 MHz
- Stijn001: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 2 PCBs; 2 daughter boards, 2 adapters boards
* - noizas : 2 x 16.9344 MHz

Hi Andrea,

it looks like I by mistake have added 2 x 16.1584 MHz to the list of 2nd batch :cubehead:

. So you have removed it.

However correct information is in my order form - 2 x 16.9344 MHz, so I decided to re-add those back to 2nd batch. Still it is not enough for MOQ :worried:

Best wishes
Saulius

duster1 · 2015-01-13 6:27 am

1st batch - MOQ reached

* - andrea_mori : 7 x 5.6448MHz + 2 x 11.2896MHz + 3 X 22.5792 MHz + 3 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + + 5 x 90.3168 MHz + 5 x 98.304 MHz + 12 x PCB + 6 x daughter board PCB + 10 x adapter board
* - Eldam : 1 x 5.6448MHz + 1 X 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MH + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x PCB + 8 adapter boards
* - esgigt : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 1 x PCB, soldered if possible
* - fralippo : 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB
* - mravinsky : 2 x 11.2896 Mhz + 3 x XO PCB + 3 x Daughter board PCB
* - TNT : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter board
* - 1audio : 1X5.6448MHz 2x22.5792MHz 2x24.5760MHz 1X45.1584MHz 1X49.152 MHz 1X90.3168MHz 1X98.304MHz+ 1 x PCB
* - randytsuch : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard + 1 x adapter board
- myint67 : 1x11.2896mhz ,1x22.5792,1x45.1584,1x49.152 ,4 PCB ,2xdaughter board , soldered if possible
* - kf_tam : 2x PCB
* - BDL : 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - thorstenlarsen : 2 x 11.2896 MHz + 2 x PCB
- Zoran : 1x22.5792MHz 1x24.5760MHz + 2 x PCB, (soldered or not...) + 1 x 11.2896 MHz + 1 x PCB
* - walangalam : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - AR2: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldering not needed)
* - mcluxun: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughterboard +2x adapter board (soldering if possible)
* - damohpi: 1 x 11.2896 + 1x PCB unsoldered
* - noizas : 2 x 5.6448MHz + 3 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 10 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
- badrisuper : : 1 x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 x PCB
* - Clsidxxl: 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz+1 x daughter board + 2 x PCB -With Assembly Service and 2 x adapter board
* - zeta4 1x 22.5792Mhz + 1 x PCB (soldering not needed)
* - hirez69: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 33.8688 MHz+ 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 6 x PCB (soldered) + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter
* - palmito : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz; 2 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.
* - gentlevoice: 1 x 22.5792MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1*PCB
* - naimster: 1x 22.5792 MHz + 1x 24.576 MHz + 2x PCB + 1x daughterboard (soldered if possible) + 2x adapter board
* - zenelectro : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x + 1x adapter board + daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Ryssen : 1 x 24.576 MHz + 1 x PCB soldered
* - flowerpot : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 4 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x daughter board PCB + 4 x adapter board
* - deanoUK : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Miklos: 1 x 11.2896MHz + 2 x PCB
* - Kannan_s:1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
* - Acko : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB
- tuyen : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB's + 1 x daughterboard (soldered if possible)
* - Malvin : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board PCB + 2 x adapter board
- Marlowe: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 22.5792 MHz + 1 x 24.576 MHz + 8 x PCB + 3 x daughter board PCB
- Superdad: 1 x 22.5792 MHz and 1 x 24.576 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board (soldered if possible)
* - vita:1 x 24.576Mhz + 6 PCB + 2 daughter board
* - ryanj 1 x 22.5792 Mhz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 3 PCB + 1 daughter PCB + 2 adapter PCB
* - justubes 1 x 11.2896 Mhz
* - JethroTull 1x 11.2896 Mhz + 2 PCB (with components, soldered o insoldered, it possible)
* - bson 4x 5.6448MHz + 2x 11.2896MHz + 4x PCB + 2x daughter board
* - jdlvfr 3 x 11.2896MHz
* - jims 2 x 11.2896MHz + 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz, 4 X PCB, 2 X daughter boards, 4 X adapter
* - spm 1 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.1520 MHz + 4 x pcb + 2 x daughter boards +4 x adaptor pcbs
* - tbrowne: 2 x 22.5792 MHz, 1 x 24.5760 MHz, 1 x 45.1584 MHz
* - iancanada: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz + 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 4 x PCB + 2 x daughter board + 2 x adapter board
* - ppap64: 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 1 x daughter board(soldered if possible)
- bkdog 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 2 x PCB + 2 x daughter board (soldered if poss)
- carz 1 x 90.3168 Mhz, + 1 x 98.304 Mhz, + 3x pcb, + 3x daughter board
* - triodehunter: 1x 45.1584 MHz + 1x 49.152 MHz + 3x pcb
* - tods : 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 1 x 22.5792MHz 1 x 24.5760MHz ; 4 PCBs; 2 daughter boards; 4 adapters.
* - duster1: 1 x 90.3168 MHz + 1 x 98.304 MHz + 4 x PCB + 2 x daughter board + 4 x adapter board

2nd batch - MOQ not yet reached
* - Miklos: 1 x 16.9344 MHz
- Marlowe: 3 x 16.9344Mhz + 3 x 25MHz
- carz 1x 27MHz
* - 1audio : 1X6.1440MHz
* - mravinsky : 1 x 16.9344Mhz
* - triodehunter: 1x 25.0000 MHz
- Stijn001: 1 x 45.1584 MHz + 1 x 49.152 MHz; 2 PCBs; 2 daughter boards, 2 adapters boards
* - noizas : 2 x 16.9344 MHz

andrea_mori · 2015-01-13 11:17 am

Closing the list

I have not yet received order form from the following members:
myint67
Zoran
badrisuper
tuyen
Marlowe
Superdad
bkdog
carz
Stijn001

I ask the above members to send me the order form as soon as possible.
As soon as the payment for Laptech crystals will be made, the first batch will be closed, and pending orders will be automatically shifted to the second batch.

Thanks

Zoran · 2015-01-14 9:40 am

I am still interested
(send you a note in mailbox...)

korben69 · 2015-01-14 12:09 pm

Hi

I've updated the Google Form according to Andrea's suggestions and new TWTMC-DIL adaptor board.
I'm still confused about pricing but it will be affordable.
Consider that it takes time for the Assembly & Testing tasks.
Link to the Form :
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1odqObA4PFXhxqxyqrZiAPSWgGCTsZBO19erk2LmXXHk/viewform

Andrea is waiting for your answer and will ship me your boards.

Regards

Phil

TNT · 2015-01-15 5:55 am

I have now invested 🙂 keep em coming!

//

Ryssen · 2015-01-15 11:19 am

I have now invested

+1
How long will it take before we can pay for the assembly?

andrea_mori · 2015-01-15 11:35 am

Ryssen said:
+1
How long will it take before we can pay for the assembly?

I'm collecting payment for the received orders.
As soon as I have received all the payment, I'll pay Laptech for the crystals.
Laptech asks 8-9 weeks lead time, I hope they will reduce that time, delivering the crystals within the end of February.
As soon as I will receive the crystals I'll ship immediately.

In the meantime, who needs assembly service, please, fill the document provided by Phil (korben69), so he can quote the service and ask for the payment.

Thanks all
Andrea

Ceglar · 2015-01-16 7:13 am

Andrea,

I can see that you are using AT cut crystal..

Any reason to avoid SC cut crystal?..

And any indication of phase noise below 1Hz from the manufacturer?

Without saying too much,
Shane

acko · 2015-01-16 9:06 am

andrea_mori said:
....
As soon as I will receive the crystals I'll ship immediately.
....
Andrea

Very interesting project. Thank you for all your efforts!

I came to know that crystals and oscillators can have variances in phase noise performance sometimes by as much as 30% in a typical production batch. There is a guy doing custom grading for many brands. He thinks manufacturers generally provide carefully curated samples for favourable evaluation but the actual production versions are mostly crap.
Will you do any tests to check against this or I assume you are just depending on device characterization?

Another question: re: the 45/49.xx or 22/24.xxx types have better noise
figures?

TIA,

Ceglar · 2015-01-16 9:17 am

I think the critical question is 100% to do with phase noise at a specified frequency, my interest is at 1Hz and below, and with such welcome elaboration therein.

Shane

andrea_mori · 2015-01-16 2:14 pm

Shane, Acko

as you know SC-cut crystal needs an oven to work, so the project become more complex. That's the reason I have chosen AT-cut crystal.
I don't have feedback about phase noise from the manufacturer, because the phase noise is a typical oscillator parameter, rather than a crystal parameter. BTW, fundamental mode crystals from Laptech are manufactured by means of a strong polish finish, to ensure almost perfect crystal surface. This usually helps to reach good phase noise performance close to the carrier.
The plot I posted at #5 of this thread shows a phase noise of -100dBc at 1Hz from the carrier using this Clapp oscillator and a crystal from the german QT, a resistance welded crystal with polish finish. The Laptech one is a cold weld package crystal with superior specs: very low ESR (less than 10 ohm), low motional capacitance (that usually means high Q) and high production quality level. They test each crystal and discard those who don't reach standard specs.

Difficult to say about 22/24/45/49.XXX phase noise. Phase noise of an oscillator usually increases with higher frequencies. However, 45/49.XXX are 3rd overtone, which usually means higher Q, that helps to reduce the phase noise.

Eldam · 2015-01-16 2:37 pm

Hi Andrea,

Will you give us a measured mounted board spreadsheet (let say 11.2888 took in the GB shipment) maid by your "german" contact who have a sota measurement bench, or maybe have you access to such devices in your near environment ?

It can give us a prof of concept if at the end both the design and current Laptech production worth the effort?

andrea_mori · 2015-01-16 2:47 pm

Eldam said:
Hi Andrea,

Will you give us a measured mounted board spreadsheet (let say 11.2888 took in the GB shipment) maid by your "german" contact who have a sota measurement bench, or maybe have you access to such devices in your near environment ?

It can give us a prof of concept if at the end both the design and current Laptech production worth the effort?

As I said in the first post of this thread, I have limited access to the university lab, so I will give a measurement when all the 3 oscillators will be ready (Clapp, Butler and Driscoll types).

I would own a suitable measurement gear to do myself the phase noise test, but unfortunately such gear costs several tens of thousand USD/Euro.

Zeta4 · 2015-01-16 4:50 pm

Andrea

What is the make and model of the equipment that you will be using for your tests?

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