The simplistic Salas low voltage shunt regulator

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I measured and I have a 26V output.

What I have to change for 24V?.

I've tested with no load (with multimeter) and within seconds Q4 gets very very hot, and that having a sink.

Hi albertob!
you you need V-out 26V, so V-in = 36V (About vin to v-out 10V it is ok for ripper)
If you need change V-out you need change zenner diode by one trimmer 1K!
 

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Hi everybody
This is my opamp phono stage that I’ll try to feed with shunt reg.
Now is operated by lm317 / 7818
I’ll tell you the differences when is finished.
(Thanks Salas)

Hi folks
I asked Salas for three circuits of regs in order to supply my phono stage; so he gave me the follow diagrams (Thanks Salas). The first two are for the step up that needs +-9V, the last for the main phono +18V.
I made +-9V last week and was used a previous version for the 18Vhttp://www.diyaudio.com/forums/power...ml#post2106695
There is big difference from the old Lm317/78xx. I have to describe when is finished.
I have some questions about the drawings:
1. In order to keep the size of regs as small as possible could I use a litic cap for C1 (4.7uF MKP), without lose of quality? What capacity? I’ve put a cheep orange 4.7uf MKT for the time.
2. Does C2 (100uF) enough? I ask because the original diagram of my phono has (2X470uF + 10uF tant) per side after 78XX, 79XX.
3. What is the max length of cable that I can use for supply and sense?
 

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Hi, nice progress.

1. For the +/-9V with LEDs 4u7 is OK, keep it MKT or better MKP. For the +18V, due to the rather small Rref, 15uF at least is needed so to keep the closed loop gain strong down to very low frequencies. C1's quality is influential subjectively. One idea to keep it compact and cheap would be two 100uF non polar in series, to make a 50uF non polar instead of a 15uF film. Series non polar was the least THD lytic cap in Bateman's tests for Electronics World, far lower than BG and Silmic. Your now 18V is the same thing I see. Why make it again? Just use the non polars & Q2 2SK on it.
2. C2 does not do what it does in the chip regs. Follow the given values.
3. As long as you like. Sense is there exactly to counteract that. Now if there will be any adversities with cable characteristics and sense wiring it will surely show. If it will oscillate it will buzz on phono's signal.:) If you have an oscilloscope check your B+ lines in the end when working on real load, to make sure they are a straight thin line (I.e. DC with no noise or oscillations).

Is that a Japanese DD turntable?
 
Hi, nice progress.

1. For the +/-9V with LEDs 4u7 is OK, keep it MKT or better MKP. For the +18V, due to the rather small Rref, 15uF at least is needed so to keep the closed loop gain strong down to very low frequencies. C1's quality is influential subjectively. One idea to keep it compact and cheap would be two 100uF non polar in series, to make a 50uF non polar instead of a 15uF film. Series non polar was the least THD lytic cap in Bateman's tests for Electronics World, far lower than BG and Silmic. Your now 18V is the same thing I see. Why make it again? Just use the non polars & Q2 2SK on it.
2. C2 does not do what it does in the chip regs. Follow the given values.
3. As long as you like. Sense is there exactly to counteract that. Now if there will be any adversities with cable characteristics and sense wiring it will surely show. If it will oscillate it will buzz on phono's signal.:) If you have an oscilloscope check your B+ lines in the end when working on real load, to make sure they are a straight thin line (I.e. DC with no noise or oscillations).

Is that a Japanese DD turntable?

1. Now I use BF245A for Q2. Do I have to change it?
2. No comments
3. I like this, because I have 1.2m power cables

It’s not as good as direct drive Japanese turntable, but it’s nice.:)
 
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BF245A is there in the 45V schematic because a 2SK170 would heat up the BJT underneath a lot at such a voltage scale. But in your 18V case the higher IDSS of the Toshiba will be useful for having more current to drive the Mosfet. The ring of two BJT LEDs constant current sink is good since your Vinput is high, has more max than a Jfet.

What is your TT and cart?
 
BF245A is there in the 45V schematic because a 2SK170 would heat up the BJT underneath a lot at such a voltage scale. But in your 18V case the higher IDSS of the Toshiba will be useful for having more current to drive the Mosfet. The ring of two BJT LEDs constant current sink is good since your Vinput is high, has more max than a Jfet.

What is your TT and cart?


So in my case I have to make the third diagram for 18V. Isn’t it?

The TT is an Acoustic Solid -Wood- with RB300 and Shelter 501
Acoustic Solid
You can hear it if you like!
 

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Today I bought two non polar capacitors and I am going to change the C2 100uf lytic. I have to change Q2 from BF245A to 2SK170BL (IDSS 6.84). Do I change the Q3 from BC 546B to BC550C or not? Also may I keep the Q1,Q4 IRFP9140 or change to IRFP9240? I have got both.
Don't forget. The Vin is 30V and the Vout 18V
 

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Cap Vref question?

Can I use 100uF/450VDC pp metallized Solen instead the lytic 1000uF Vref cap for Shunt TT DC motor, Disco reg 1.5V & for V1.0 RS?

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I have 8 caps without use & several are news.

Or will be better two BG non polar caps 100uF/50V in series?

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I have 6 caps without use.
 
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