No they simply cut the panels to size. All the driver cutouts and rebates etc are up to you. You have to have some fun! However I can imagine all that being pre done being a very attractive option for many.
Cheers .
Cheers .
So they do all the easy stuff and not any of the stuff that is ideal for using a CNC. Likely less effort to just cut the panels with a table saw.
dave
dave
I would suggest that building enclosures from CNC cut panels is the way to go.
In years gone by I have built enclosures cut on tables saws and I've found panels not to be exactly the same size and sometimes not really square.
With CNC properly cut panels it is a real pleasure to assemble. They all fit together just right
All the best
Steve
In years gone by I have built enclosures cut on tables saws and I've found panels not to be exactly the same size and sometimes not really square.
With CNC properly cut panels it is a real pleasure to assemble. They all fit together just right
All the best
Steve
CNC time is expensive. If you have trouble with table saw panels then you need more practise and maybe a better table saw and if you are paying someone to cut the panels one assumes that person has both.
We do quite a few frugel-horn flat-paks and use the CNC to do the sides (which are far from rectangular and have dados) and the baffle (because of the rebate) and all the rectangular pieces with a table saw. Doing the latter with the table saw costs less.
But if you want to pay extra to have a CNC do an incomplete job then go for it.
CNC is not a panacea.
dave
We do quite a few frugel-horn flat-paks and use the CNC to do the sides (which are far from rectangular and have dados) and the baffle (because of the rebate) and all the rectangular pieces with a table saw. Doing the latter with the table saw costs less.
But if you want to pay extra to have a CNC do an incomplete job then go for it.
CNC is not a panacea.
dave
Hey Dave,
Sorry I can't agree. I have friendly and very helpful CNC operators.
I think the extra cost (which is NOT extreme for me) is well worth it.
I don't have to own a top notch table saw. I just need a good CAD file or two.
🙂
All the best
Steve
Sorry I can't agree. I have friendly and very helpful CNC operators.
I think the extra cost (which is NOT extreme for me) is well worth it.
I don't have to own a top notch table saw. I just need a good CAD file or two.
🙂
All the best
Steve
Hey Dave,
Further to my previous post. I don't build speakers very often and paying to have the panels CNC cut is a "god send". Just think of all the expensive tools I don't need to own or know how to get the best out of. I would suggest that for us occasional speaker builders that CNC _IS_ a panacea.
Just my $0.02
All the best to everyone
Steve
Further to my previous post. I don't build speakers very often and paying to have the panels CNC cut is a "god send". Just think of all the expensive tools I don't need to own or know how to get the best out of. I would suggest that for us occasional speaker builders that CNC _IS_ a panacea.
Just my $0.02
All the best to everyone
Steve
Hello,
I'm always thinking of upgrading my Nomex 164 from TG, a 2.5 way wich use the same drivers than the Elsinore.
What about the buil quality of the HDS 830875 ?
I've read that now they were build in China and the build quality was not the same than four years ago.
I'm always thinking of upgrading my Nomex 164 from TG, a 2.5 way wich use the same drivers than the Elsinore.
What about the buil quality of the HDS 830875 ?
I've read that now they were build in China and the build quality was not the same than four years ago.
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If you are paying someone to do the job, you don't need to buy any tools, and you would pay less to get the same panels. Now if you can't find a professional with a table saw then the CNC defaults to the only option.
It does seem really silly to get a CNC to cut the panels that a good operater with a table saw can do with less cost and not do the tricky bits where the CNC shine. All the rebates can be in the CNC file and it is no real extra work for the CNC to do all of those.
I would insist on getting the CNC to do the tricky bits and make it worthwhile to go to the CNC.
dave
A decent industrial CNC is not cheap. The one we have access to cost something like $350,000.
dave
dave
Hi Dave. If you have a look at the way the Elsinore cabinets are constructed (following Joe's instructions) there is no other CNC/Sawbench/Router work to be done other than the cutting of the panels to size, speaker and terminal post cutouts and rebating of drivers. No other tricky bits to do. The cabinets were designed to be very easy to build for the first time builder. If the company doing the CNC work is doing it for a reasonable price then why not. Done this way it's far more likely to entice someone without high levels of woodworking skills to have a go.
Stuff that is ideal for a CNC to do, but from an earlier post, not done by this CNC provider.
dave
To be clear, Chris, the CNC provider here in Melbourne _IS_ doing all the cut outs and rebates as per Joe's Elsinore design. In fact it was Chris who created the CAD files for me when I first built my Elsinores. And Chris can program / cut any other profile or design required from MDF, composites, plastics, ply etc.
All the best
Steve
All the best
Steve
That is counter to what was said here.
If all the holes & rebates are being done, then CNC is worthwhile. My comments were all driven by the understanding that they were not.
dave
If all the holes & rebates are being done, then CNC is worthwhile. My comments were all driven by the understanding that they were not.
dave
Glad that's cleared up.🙂
Steve. What was the cost of the CNC work and did they supply the MDF?
In 2011 when I built my MK5's Allboards charged $170 to supply and cut all the MDF which I thought was pretty fair.
Cheers.
Steve. What was the cost of the CNC work and did they supply the MDF?
In 2011 when I built my MK5's Allboards charged $170 to supply and cut all the MDF which I thought was pretty fair.
Cheers.
Whew! What a read! Another Melbournian here, by the way.
What an amazing and epic thread. I've learned so much in reading over the last few weeks. While I won't have the space or money for a project of this magnitude for quite some time, I'm certainly inspired by all the stories from folks who've built these.
Also, great to hear there are local folks around my neck of the woods who have built these, as well as some contacts for cutting projects, should I need it.
Joe, thanks for making your design public, and to everyone else, thanks for sharing yoyr builds and experiences.
What an amazing and epic thread. I've learned so much in reading over the last few weeks. While I won't have the space or money for a project of this magnitude for quite some time, I'm certainly inspired by all the stories from folks who've built these.
Also, great to hear there are local folks around my neck of the woods who have built these, as well as some contacts for cutting projects, should I need it.
Joe, thanks for making your design public, and to everyone else, thanks for sharing yoyr builds and experiences.