Hi atmo,
Yes I did see TB's suggested XO, but I am specifically interested in first order XO slopes with the drivers wired in phase together, for a "transient perfect" speaker. I may try plugging their XO values into XSim anyway, just to see if XSim predicts out the same response.
Sharp eyes, Bwaslo! I was wondering if anybody would notice that. I installed Wine and WineBottler, and very easily wrapped it with zero previous experience. XSim runs great on Mac, it turns out!
Yes, I use Wine as well. Works for XSim, HornResp, Basta, DRCDesigner, QSpeaker, WinISD, and DATS.
Couldn't make it work for LeonardTransmission Software, or VituixCAD.
Just ordered a pair of 6.5"... They'll be here in about 2 weeks.
I'll get testing later. My plan is to do a LS50 lookalike.
I'll get testing later. My plan is to do a LS50 lookalike.
I am glad to know that so many speaker sim apps will run with Wine. I need to learn how to model baffle step so I can feed that into XSim. Until then, I feel like my simulation efforts are not of much use.
Perceval, I look forward to your results with the W6-2313, and I hope it sounds good for you. They certainly are handsomely built. I am curious about the phase alignment between the drivers, and how much this speaker can approach the coherency of a full range cone.
Perceval, I look forward to your results with the W6-2313, and I hope it sounds good for you. They certainly are handsomely built. I am curious about the phase alignment between the drivers, and how much this speaker can approach the coherency of a full range cone.
Think if one care measure acoustic slopes then simple passive network on tweeter will never bring it there and a compromise that introduce many other distortions because it not a real smooth 1st order slope, in my opinion needs hammered into slopes using DSP engine with infinite features and when its there will be SPL limited to say a 1 meter or less nearfield triangle, guess we should remember to get coherence for 1st order setup say at a XO point of 2,5kHz then tweeter slope should be smooth and only -20dB at 250Hz lows and same scenario goes for woofer that it should be smooth and only -20dB up at 25kHz. That said the higher we go in XO point excess phase distortion is less and less audioable and SQ-waves ran out of bandwidth at 6kHz area no matter what we do so it shouldn't be so degrading up orders to 2nd or 4th up at say a 3kHz XO point or something and then benefit what that brings of lower stroke and less distortion.
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murat, thanks although your comment "listening to square waves" can sound as sarcasm glad we can agree 🙂
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Keep at it. XSim is very nice. I'm only starting to make designs that make sense somewhat... I think the key is... follow some of the rules, and throw caution to the wind and try stuff ... you will learn a lot about it that way.
I'll see when the drivers arrive. Bit busy with other stuff right now.
Undecided if I'll do a sealed or vented box for the W6
I can't get winisd to work in Wine. Come to think of it... I dunno if I've gotten anything to work in Wine. 😡
Something wrong with your Wine installation, I guess, because I installed WinISD without any kind of tweaking.
Try downloading and installing the latest version:
WineHQ - Run Windows applications on Linux, BSD, Solaris and macOS
Try downloading and installing the latest version:
WineHQ - Run Windows applications on Linux, BSD, Solaris and macOS
I don't think I could live with that response above 2.5K, especially from a metal tweeter. It would only look worse further off axis.
I wouldn't mind trying a coax but I've never seen a diy coaxial that's smooth off axis.
Wine, aka whine, its also what you have to drink after you realize it doesn't work, at least in linux.
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Possibly.
Where I come from Santa Claus has already been. On time during the night before the 6th of December and filled kids stockings with sweets.
On the 24th Father Christmas turns up towards the evening after christmas dinner bearing a rod and presents. He uses the rod to punish children for whatever bad things they've done throughout the year and only then hands out presents for all the good things they've done. 🙂