Sorry, the first item on the Google list was the coax.
I didn't know they had two drivers with the same number, just coax added at the end.
So, yes, as twocents mentioned, it will work fine in the TABAQ.
What happens when you adjust the acoustical path (distance driver - port)?This is HornResp:
we're talking about the TABAQ here, which is usually optimal around 30+cm from the top.
Closer to the top will be worse, and lower might look good, but the driver will be way too low for ear level.
Even at 30+cm, the TABAQ benefits from being angled back, especially for those 4" drivers.
I was referring to the differing results between Mjk simulation and hornresp.
One can specify the distance between driver and port opening, which changes the simulated response. This value is reflected in "path" at the first HR screenshot. I think
one sets this value in "chamber".
I am not meaning driveroffset zd.
Edit: this is especially usefull for specifying the real world geometry of the box, weathers its a straight or a folded line.
Hi,
i tried to simulate the original TABAQ with hornresp, hornresp-record attached.
Driver specs are from here: https://www.lautsprechershop.de/pdf/tangband/w3-315sc.pdf
The result doesn't match with the Mathcad sim shown in https://www.diyaudio.com/community/attachments/the-first-version-tabaq-story-1-pdf.1081229/
Any ideas what i did wrong?
Thanks in advance!
i tried to simulate the original TABAQ with hornresp, hornresp-record attached.
Driver specs are from here: https://www.lautsprechershop.de/pdf/tangband/w3-315sc.pdf
The result doesn't match with the Mathcad sim shown in https://www.diyaudio.com/community/attachments/the-first-version-tabaq-story-1-pdf.1081229/
Any ideas what i did wrong?
Thanks in advance!
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So I have been building some TABAQ:s this weekend.
Pretty straigth forward.
Now has the glue just dried and first sound test is... Wow! Cant believe how good they sound. 😀
There will be some sanding, touch-up and paint later on.
Sanding, painting and speaker grills done.
Found some car speaker grills 4x6" that had the correct measurement. Turned up side down they are perfect to hide the Faital speaker look.
Some small neo magnets glued to the grills and some screws for the magnets to attach to.
My first Tabaq TL is done. This was fun. 😀👍
Found some car speaker grills 4x6" that had the correct measurement. Turned up side down they are perfect to hide the Faital speaker look.
Some small neo magnets glued to the grills and some screws for the magnets to attach to.
My first Tabaq TL is done. This was fun. 😀👍
Thanks 🙂
The speaker grills Im most satisfied with, the turned out way better than the speaker boxes and my paintjob...which means I soon have to build another pair 😀 😀
I will also make the square version of speaker grills 4"x6" Inch Rectangular Speaker
Just ordered
The speaker grills Im most satisfied with, the turned out way better than the speaker boxes and my paintjob...which means I soon have to build another pair 😀 😀
I will also make the square version of speaker grills 4"x6" Inch Rectangular Speaker
Just ordered
Hi, this is my first post after four years since I was happy with my previous builds. My 0.53x dual faital pro 3FE 25 karlsonators in foamcore began to loose some of their bass propably due to air leakage so i decided to use the 4 drivers in order to build the tabaqs. Two of the in the folded version and two in the normal (2020) version. No bsp, just DSP for now. I am very happy with them and likely they will be used in a home theater setup after i complete a 3rd folded one.
But! due to my excitement i made a stupid mistake and cut the holes for my drivers on the wrong piece of wood. I ended up with a pair of tabaqs (normal 2020 version) that have the ports looking back...
They sound very good in my ears, actually i cannot tell any difference between them and the folded ones that are build correctly.
So before i start painting them i would like to know if in "science" terms the wrong position of the port is so "bad". MDF is cheap and i dont mind building them all over again.
Thanks...
But! due to my excitement i made a stupid mistake and cut the holes for my drivers on the wrong piece of wood. I ended up with a pair of tabaqs (normal 2020 version) that have the ports looking back...
They sound very good in my ears, actually i cannot tell any difference between them and the folded ones that are build correctly.
So before i start painting them i would like to know if in "science" terms the wrong position of the port is so "bad". MDF is cheap and i dont mind building them all over again.
Thanks...
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I'm not very familiar with Hornresp software so, I can't say what you might have got wrong.
But, looking at the data sheet for the TangBand driver you have chosen, I think it's safe to say it will work well in a TABAQ enclosure - Fs and Qts are well within the recommended values - best of luck with your build 🙂
Thanks for your reply, it's the original driver so yes it should work.
Possibly it's because the resistance from the BSC is not incooperated in the simualtion, i'll see.
Hi folks,
I’ve been reading this thread with interest but, I’m still about 9 years behind current comments! What I’ve read so far has raised a couple of questions & I’m hoping someone can shed some light here and help me out.
I’ve read through most of Mr King’s work regarding TL’s and his examples seem to use drivers with moderate Qts values that work well with SBB4 alignments. Looking at Bjorn’s sims, they seem to have the tell-tale peak just before roll-off that would suggest a (S?)C4 alignment (I always got those two confused). With Martin’s work in mind, would you think the same way with a TL as if you were making a traditional BR and look at (S)C4 alignments when dealing with a high Qts driver? Bear in mind, I’m not yet familiar with Mr King’s work and my rusty knowledge could well result in my brain creating 24ct poop! My apologies if that’s the case 🙄
Secondly, as several posters have asked, I’m hoping that there’s a way to increase the height of the TABAQ to lift the position of the driver.
Is there any wiggle room with the vent area? Or does messing with cross-sectional area of the vent interfere too much with the response?
If anyone can offer some insight or advice, it would be greatly appreciated 🙂
Thanks in advance,
Phil
I’ve been reading this thread with interest but, I’m still about 9 years behind current comments! What I’ve read so far has raised a couple of questions & I’m hoping someone can shed some light here and help me out.
I’ve read through most of Mr King’s work regarding TL’s and his examples seem to use drivers with moderate Qts values that work well with SBB4 alignments. Looking at Bjorn’s sims, they seem to have the tell-tale peak just before roll-off that would suggest a (S?)C4 alignment (I always got those two confused). With Martin’s work in mind, would you think the same way with a TL as if you were making a traditional BR and look at (S)C4 alignments when dealing with a high Qts driver? Bear in mind, I’m not yet familiar with Mr King’s work and my rusty knowledge could well result in my brain creating 24ct poop! My apologies if that’s the case 🙄
Secondly, as several posters have asked, I’m hoping that there’s a way to increase the height of the TABAQ to lift the position of the driver.
Is there any wiggle room with the vent area? Or does messing with cross-sectional area of the vent interfere too much with the response?
If anyone can offer some insight or advice, it would be greatly appreciated 🙂
Thanks in advance,
Phil
There are a few things that you can consider. I also like the driver position higher at ear level.
You can certainly make a down firing port to increase the length of the speaker box. I used plan B posted on this thread. Then I also added some extra thick feet for more stability. This raised the driver centre to 72cm from the floor. Lately I have been using 30mm thick EVA foam pads to de-couple the speakers from the floor, which improves bass and lower bass definition. My driver height is now 75cm.
More on round ports on this thread and Bjorn's answer.
Hope it helps.
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Hi, Can someone Guide me if there's a TABaq for 6 inch? I read tabaq Large is for 5 inch.. But anything for 6 inch? Fs of the driver is 77Hz and qts is 0.69..if it helps