SX-Amp and NX-Amp

Today is another listening day.
A PGA2311A based preamplifier (posted in Elektor) drive the SX amplifier.
Away sound!
Death silent even with ear in woofer!
Wonderful sound ,i listen again and again the (Pink Floyd) "High Hopes.

Hi Thimios,

You don't find that the PGA2311 has compression issues when dealing with complexe audio passages? I find it loses focus and you lose the air in between the instruments in those moments.

Let me know your thoughts
Do
 
Pinnocchio,

What's the size of the PCB?

Sorry for the late response

It is harder to measure with all the wires in the way but roughly

~4.25" (108mm) BJT to BJT and about the same measure for the other lenght of the PCB.

I have a 5.5" (140mm) internal chassis height and it fits well as you can see in the picture I posted earlier. So, 3U is 5.25" (133.4mm). It should fit well unless the internal height is much lower.

Ciao!
Do
 
This is a deliciously sounding amplifier! Soundstage is just breathtaking! Same impressions I had before listening to the one Fab had made but it had been so long since I last heard it that even though I knew it was a superb sounding amplifier, I just didn't remember 100% of it.

I'm really glad I finished the amplifier!

Andrew, big thank you for everything you do for the DIY community!! And btw, do you have PCBs of that Ovation Symphony line preamplifier of yours? I'm interested! 😀

Ciao!
Do
 
This is a deliciously sounding amplifier! Soundstage is just breathtaking! Same impressions I had before listening to the one Fab had made but it had been so long since I last heard it that even though I knew it was a superb sounding amplifier, I just didn't remember 100% of it.

I'm really glad I finished the amplifier!

Andrew, big thank you for everything you do for the DIY community!! And btw, do you have PCBs of that Ovation Symphony line preamplifier of yours? I'm interested! 😀

Ciao!
Do

Hi
Which version you built.
Is it biased in to Class A or A/B.
Greetings Gabor
 
Hi
Which version you built.
Is it biased in to Class A or A/B.
Greetings Gabor

Hi gaborbela,

I have the NX version biased at 55mV accross the 0.3 ohm emittor resistors. At +/-50V supply it does not give me much in Class A, maybe a few watts but it is enough. I feel like I can probably push it to 60-65mV accross the emittor resistors since I'm only at 45 Celcius on the heatsink, just warm!

I will attempt this on the weekend, although it does sound amazing just as is.

Ciao!
Do
 
leave the bias voltage as it is and reduce the emitter resistors slightly to get a bit more bias current and thus a bit more ClassA output before it transitions over to ClassAB.

Adding a 0r47 parallel to your existing 0r3 gives a net 0r183 for a 64% increase in bias current (and a 168% increase in ClassA power). You might be better reducing the bias voltage slightly to around 45mVre to 50mVre.
 
leave the bias voltage as it is and reduce the emitter resistors slightly to get a bit more bias current and thus a bit more ClassA output before it transitions over to ClassAB.

Adding a 0r47 parallel to your existing 0r3 gives a net 0r183 for a 64% increase in bias current (and a 168% increase in ClassA power). You might be better reducing the bias voltage slightly to around 45mVre to 50mVre.

Thanks AndrewT,

Good idea! I will try this instead. I'll just order some new resistors altogether or solder under the PCB.

Do
 
Thanks for your comments Pinocchio - very glad you like it!

Indeed if your heatsinks can take it, on the nx-Amplifier you can run the bias higher - just check that the bias setting is stable.

For the class A sx-Amplifier, I do not recommend you change the bias setting,which is currently at 700mA per transistor pair
 
Re symphony pre - very big project with lots of documentation. To release it will take a lot of effort. I really have to think about this.

I know it is off topic but last post on this... 😀

Maybe you could sell the PCBs and build in the price your R&D efforts and also make a poll of who would be interested to buy some PCBs?

Just a thought as it seems to be quite a nice gear to share with the world. :cheers:

Do
 
Thanks for your comments Pinocchio - very glad you like it!

Indeed if your heatsinks can take it, on the nx-Amplifier you can run the bias higher - just check that the bias setting is stable.

For the class A sx-Amplifier, I do not recommend you change the bias setting,which is currently at 700mA per transistor pair

I'm willing to take the plunge with some Ohmite Audio Gold 0R22 non-inductive resistors that I found in my stock, but not now... It is all tightly fit in the chassis and I'm feeling totally lazy at the moment, especially that it plays sooooo well! 😀

Ciao!
Do
 
Sorry for the late response

It is harder to measure with all the wires in the way but roughly

~4.25" (108mm) BJT to BJT and about the same measure for the other lenght of the PCB.

I have a 5.5" (140mm) internal chassis height and it fits well as you can see in the picture I posted earlier. So, 3U is 5.25" (133.4mm). It should fit well unless the internal height is much lower.

Ciao!
Do

Hi Pinnocchio,
Do you think it would be possible to fit in a HiFi2000 3U chassis? These chassis are 12cm high but the internal height is only 10cm (because of the heatsink fixings). Maybe bending the bjts legs?
Thank you.
 
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