Subwoofer construction help plzz :(

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Ahmad_tbp said:
hi aaaaaaaallll 😉
i m busy w amp 🙂 ... i think i find a way to build the leach super amp w mj15015/16 for my subs 😀
any idea ???
do u have any idea , for protectin circuit , and sub filter and of course crosswover ... ? any good pcb or schematic ?
i m awaitin ur ideas ... 😉
( i just removed my photo !!! , i have no idea why i put that there .. do u know ? lol 😛 )

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I have a circuit for a DC detector to protect your speaker if your amp fails. I'll find it and post it to you.

As far as the other stuff goes, if this box and amp are for your bass guitar only then I would forget the sub filter and any fancy crossover. I believe that the sound of bass guitar should not be filtered because even though technically it only plays bass there are many harmonics that contribute to the sound. Why would you want to lose the clicks and snaps of great bass riffs? Invest in a simple compressor instead or make one (compressors are easy).

You must run a full range PA speaker as well as your subwoofer because the subwoofer will not go high enough. This also removes the need for a midrange. If you decided to run a horn tweeter as well then a simple series capacitor will be enough crossover or just use a piezo instead.

Cheers
 
You must be "VERY" careful with polyfill or any kind of sound deadener in a bandpass box. It will change the tuning, and the tuning of a bandpass box is very picky about effective chamber volume.

I recommend to add bracing on the front chamber, it's a large chamber or not? Tried to put heavy stuff on your subwoofer or pushing on the side to see if it's changing the sound?

Sometimes it can be a leg that's a bit too short or something ringing in the room also... good luck!
 
Thanks a ton Simon and Quasi. I'll try this stuff out tonight.

Ahmad -- you really don't want a limiter. Just use the compressor you built. One thing about compressors: the more you compress the signal the more low end you'll have. One of the experts could probably tell you why; I don't know. Be advised that you'll need to reduce the low end if you use much compression.

How's the project coming along?
 
Simon & Quasi -- you two had it right. The general ringing was lack of bracing in the bottom. I ran a sweep from 20 to 100 hz and the box just lit up about 45hz--I thought it might do the out-of-level washing machine thing and just take off across the floor. Some bracing took care of that. I put carpet pad on two sides of the front chamber which got rid of some additional ringing. Thanks again.
 
Simon: I had a question about the EBS enclosure pictured in your earlier posting. Are those cubbies (square areas with partitions having circular passthroughs) tuned resonance cavities or just a way of doing bracing? Excuse my ignorance, but I've never seen anything like that.
 
hi all
another design , w bracin ... ( a lot bracin !!! )
and maybe a bracin in woofer section ( i show it as wireframe ) ...
and with a left view to show the location of bracings ...
is it goooood ???
 

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Barton said:
Simon: I had a question about the EBS enclosure pictured in your earlier posting. Are those cubbies (square areas with partitions having circular passthroughs) tuned resonance cavities or just a way of doing bracing? Excuse my ignorance, but I've never seen anything like that.


It's just a way of doing bracing, I followed the plan shown on the link above the picture. It's the EBS enclosure plan made by Adire Audio.

The same piece of wood can touch 4 box walls to prevent flexing, very good bracing.
 
Ahmad_tbp said:
hi all
another design , w bracin ... ( a lot bracin !!! )
and maybe a bracin in woofer section ( i show it as wireframe ) ...
and with a left view to show the location of bracings ...
is it goooood ???

Yes, it's good, but I would use smaller holes on the big piece of wood in the center, so that the two braces behind have wood on each side, like in the picture I showed you. It will be stronger this way. I would also push the center piece a bit more in the center, it can be *almost* in the center like I said, just not exactly in the center. I'm a bit perfectionist you know, if you're already satisfied, I think it will sound right already...

You can add bracing in the woofer part if you want to, it can help. But in that part it's more important to use some kind of stuffing. Check around you to see what people use inside speakers for stuffing, stuff like polyfill.

When you are ready to build your box, you can tell us and we will help you calculate everything to remove volume taken by the port, speakers and bracing. Then, we can tell you the final port length. If you are good in mathematics, I guess you can calculate the internal volume easily...
 
hiiiii simon5 & quasi & others ... i m back again !!! ...
lol .. hope u help me again ...
i bought two RCF 12" full range speakers , and another sony sub ...
plzz help me design my cab again ,, im starting to buil the leach super amp for that .. any idea ???
how are the RCF speakers i bought ???
i coudn t find any info bout them on net the are rcf L12-31k ...
 
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