Of all of Marten's loudspeakers the only one I liked was Mingus[emoji846]. All the rest I couldn't listen to
Which one ? That is the CELL series tweeter and mid 🙂Of all of Marten's loudspeakers the only one I liked was Mingus[emoji846]. All the rest I couldn't listen to
Yes, Mingus Quintet. That time it was fully ceramic version. C90 + C25Which one ? That is the CELL series tweeter and mid 🙂
Right, same material from from roughly 370Hz and up... so should be very coherent transition between does two drivers at 4kHz which is the XO on the Mingus Quintet - a bit high for that C90 in my opinion.
I'm agree. 2.5kHz is the maximum allowed crosspoint for it. 2.0 is betterRight, same material from from roughly 370Hz and up... so should be very coherent transition between does two drivers at 4kHz which is the XO on the Mingus Quintet - a bit high for that C90 in my opinion.
4th order 2kHz XO 🙂I'm agree. 2.5kHz is the maximum allowed crosspoint for it. 2.0 is better
Yes. There was a time...4th order 2kHz XO 🙂
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In these loudspeakers I chose 2.5kHz/4th
2.5kH is also fine - I know I love the C25 tweeter, I have not heard the T25B-6 and the cost roughly the same ... the Be has better 25kHz+ response which affect the IMD. One can ofc test a 4th order passband on the C25 to tame the cone breakup at 35kH...
I think want to build with the C25 and C90 together with SBA TX woofers, I believe in that... hopefully independent reviews of the TX woofers support my hopes of high transient woofers.
I think want to build with the C25 and C90 together with SBA TX woofers, I believe in that... hopefully independent reviews of the TX woofers support my hopes of high transient woofers.
Oh and by the way, how the heck does Tidal/Vimberg and Marten connect 3 woofers, anything but parallel and series gives awful power distribution.
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Speaker Parallel Serial Connection Calculator - Electronics Projects Circuits
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Speaker Parallel Serial Connection Calculator - Electronics Projects Circuits
Tidal Vimberg. Three woofers are in parallel connection. Possibly, one of the worst bass I ever heard...Oh and by the way, how the heck does Tidal/Vimberg and Marten connect 3 woofers, anything but parallel and series gives awful power distribution.
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3 in parallel is a huge load on any amplifier and Accuton woofers aren't great no. Similar story with Marten. Sounded lifeless
The 5" TX midrange was announced.
5″ SATORI MW13TX-8 / TeXtreme – Sbacoustics
5″ SATORI MW13TX-4 / TeXtreme – Sbacoustics
5″ SATORI MW13TX-8 / TeXtreme – Sbacoustics
5″ SATORI MW13TX-4 / TeXtreme – Sbacoustics
I noticed something interesting.
5” SB15CAC30-8 - Mms 10.7 g - Cms 1.88 mm/N - Magnetic flux density 1.0 T - Magnet weight 0.54 kg
5″ SATORI MW13TX-8 - Mms 7.3 g - Cms 2.19 mm/N - Magnetic flux density 1.08 T - Magnet weight 0.1 kg
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I am working on my transient perfect loudspeaker .... so, yeah...
5” SB15CAC30-8 - Mms 10.7 g - Cms 1.88 mm/N - Magnetic flux density 1.0 T - Magnet weight 0.54 kg
5″ SATORI MW13TX-8 - Mms 7.3 g - Cms 2.19 mm/N - Magnetic flux density 1.08 T - Magnet weight 0.1 kg
😀
I am working on my transient perfect loudspeaker .... so, yeah...
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You forgot an important component of that comparison, as those are not in fact the same size driver.
SB15CAC30-8 (150mm) - Sd 82cm^2
MW13TX-8 (130mm) - Sd 70cm^2
The comparison would be that SB15CAC is 117% of the surface area, and 146% the moving mass. What effect on transient response? None at all, only sensitivity is affected. For an idea of transient response you need to look no further than the frequency response of the driver, the new Satori TX look quite good in this regard.
SB15CAC30-8 (150mm) - Sd 82cm^2
MW13TX-8 (130mm) - Sd 70cm^2
The comparison would be that SB15CAC is 117% of the surface area, and 146% the moving mass. What effect on transient response? None at all, only sensitivity is affected. For an idea of transient response you need to look no further than the frequency response of the driver, the new Satori TX look quite good in this regard.
CAC = 0,13g/cm^2
TX = 0,10g/cm^2 ... so per any given Sd, the TeXtreme is ligher 🙂
The TX is more refined in that it behaves better (more linear), has a more gentle cone breakup and further up in frequency and higher sensitivity. So, the TX should sound cleaner than the CAC. But we don't know the harmonic content of the TX material yet.
TX = 0,10g/cm^2 ... so per any given Sd, the TeXtreme is ligher 🙂
The TX is more refined in that it behaves better (more linear), has a more gentle cone breakup and further up in frequency and higher sensitivity. So, the TX should sound cleaner than the CAC. But we don't know the harmonic content of the TX material yet.
Transient response is very much located to cabinet, filter and absorption & diffusers. A good driver makes the life of an engineer simpler... if he/she knows what he/she is doing 🙂
Meaning to say it all matters.
Meaning to say it all matters.
There's no lack of good 3" and 4" drivers... I wish they had paid their attention to the compact 1.5"-2" format for semi-point-source applications.
Having said that, I am very impressed with the detail on their spec sheet.
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