stepped attenuators
hello nuuk,
i read with interest your comments on the dale vishay attenuators, i'm new to this forum and just completed the 41 hxz amp 6 basic. i now want to add the dale vishay (50k) and perhaps replace the feedback resistors. would this be suitable or ott given modest price of the amp. i'd appreciate your comments please
martin
hello nuuk,
i read with interest your comments on the dale vishay attenuators, i'm new to this forum and just completed the 41 hxz amp 6 basic. i now want to add the dale vishay (50k) and perhaps replace the feedback resistors. would this be suitable or ott given modest price of the amp. i'd appreciate your comments please
martin
i now want to add the dale vishay (50k) and perhaps replace the feedback resistors. would this be suitable or ott given modest price of the amp.
I don't think it is OTT. The AMP6 is a good little amp and if you move on to something better later on, you can still use the attenuator. So I would say go for it! 😉
dale vishay attenuator
thanks nuuk for your prompt reply, i'm very pleased with this little amp already and i'm sure the attenuator ,some obligatto caps will improve it even further, thanks for your advise
martin
thanks nuuk for your prompt reply, i'm very pleased with this little amp already and i'm sure the attenuator ,some obligatto caps will improve it even further, thanks for your advise
martin
This is kind of late in the piece but I've been using a vishay/sfernice P11 series linear 100K stereo cermet pot with 2 x 10K vishay bulk foil "law fake" resistors in a passive for about 10 years. It seems this is now referred to as a "rod elliot" pot, but at the time this was the suggested config listed in the Russ Andrews Audio catalog. The pot is a bit sloppy now but sound quality is superb. The PA11 conductive plastic might have the egde, but these parts are difficult to source 1 off.
cheers
Paul
Guess I'm not the only person who thinks the P11's are pretty special
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=26850#post26850
cheers
Paul
Guess I'm not the only person who thinks the P11's are pretty special
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=26850#post26850
Part Number Please
"carbon pot from Precision Electronic Components,
I was simply blown away."
What is the part number for the stereo pot
please? PEC or US-Digikey number.
Thank You
"carbon pot from Precision Electronic Components,
I was simply blown away."
What is the part number for the stereo pot
please? PEC or US-Digikey number.
Thank You
Sloppy matching
These are great sounding, or lack of sounding pots. But the matching on sections is not good.
My honest suggestion is to use a pair of mono pots. Five mono pots is about the same price as one stereo and then you can maybe match up two pair. I think with 10, four pairs matched up pretty close.
George
These are great sounding, or lack of sounding pots. But the matching on sections is not good.
My honest suggestion is to use a pair of mono pots. Five mono pots is about the same price as one stereo and then you can maybe match up two pair. I think with 10, four pairs matched up pretty close.
George
Peter Daniel said:
It is my observation that a quality of the pot IS very critical (when placed at amp's input). It may make or brake the sound of the amp.
Clever pun! It is an attenuator, so it functions as a brake, reducing the output. In deed it is supposed to make or brake the sound of the amp. 😀
better late than never. Thought I'd take a break from the Digital/Marantz opus. These look really nice (and expensive) anyone had a listen? http://www.hificollective.co.uk/kits/glasshousehome.html
Re: Part Number Please
PEC part# for a stereo pot I used is KKA2531S28. It is possible to obtain them as samples.
They are also listed on page 1561 of current digikey catalog (stereo pots are available now as well). As noted earlier, channel matching may be problematic. Although they were 10% tolerance, variations of 6db were quite common.
ppcblaster said:I was simply blown away."
What is the part number for the stereo pot
please? PEC or US-Digikey number.
PEC part# for a stereo pot I used is KKA2531S28. It is possible to obtain them as samples.
They are also listed on page 1561 of current digikey catalog (stereo pots are available now as well). As noted earlier, channel matching may be problematic. Although they were 10% tolerance, variations of 6db were quite common.
It just occured to me that if you guys are discussing a method whereby the music will sound clearly better and more engaging....you are talking about the wrong kind of pot! 😀
What do you suggest Please
What do you suggest Please
rcavictim said:It just occured to me that if you guys are discussing a method whereby the music will sound clearly better and more engaging....you are talking about the wrong kind of pot! 😀
What do you suggest Please
Hello from France,
Just received a PEC 100K pot and would like to know how to connect it.
Is this scheme correct ?
(found for other attenuators)
I tried :
A : ground 0
B : signal input
C : signal output to amp
BUT in this configuration I have, I measure :
Attenuator full left (supposed to give no sound) :
R input = 1.2 Kohms
R output = 2 ohms
Attenuator full right (supposed to give sound max) :
R input = 1.2 Kohms
R output = 1.2 Kohms
I do not understand those values cause the attenuator is a 100K !
Could you please help me ?
Thank you alot,
Regards
Just received a PEC 100K pot and would like to know how to connect it.
Is this scheme correct ?
(found for other attenuators)
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I tried :
A : ground 0
B : signal input
C : signal output to amp
BUT in this configuration I have, I measure :
Attenuator full left (supposed to give no sound) :
R input = 1.2 Kohms
R output = 2 ohms
Attenuator full right (supposed to give sound max) :
R input = 1.2 Kohms
R output = 1.2 Kohms
I do not understand those values cause the attenuator is a 100K !
Could you please help me ?
Thank you alot,
Regards
ptiJean said:Could you please help me ?
Not really. Either your measurements are wrong or your pot. These complicated measurements are unnecessary anyway. Just measure end to end (A to B) and you will know what pot you have.
PEC pots
Hi Everyone,
There is a company called tedss.comtedss.com and you can get some good deals. I got some PEC and Allen Bradley pots over there. Single and double banks. I love their oil paper and old black cats (PKs) caps, sound so nice!
http://www.tedss.com/electronic-parts/potentiometers/RV4/browse/
Regards to all.
Timeonli
Hi Everyone,
There is a company called tedss.comtedss.com and you can get some good deals. I got some PEC and Allen Bradley pots over there. Single and double banks. I love their oil paper and old black cats (PKs) caps, sound so nice!
http://www.tedss.com/electronic-parts/potentiometers/RV4/browse/
Regards to all.
Timeonli
Re: What do you suggest Please
Get a friend to introduce you to Mary Jane. 😉
ppcblaster said:
What do you suggest Please
Get a friend to introduce you to Mary Jane. 😉
My gainclone is LM3875. I have tried:
cheap Pot, $2 each
alps Pot, expensive (forgot)
DIY resistor divider a'la DACT
And honestly I cannot differentiate any sound at all!
Next I want to try the active stull like digital and lightspeed, see if they actually make different sound.
cheap Pot, $2 each
alps Pot, expensive (forgot)
DIY resistor divider a'la DACT
And honestly I cannot differentiate any sound at all!
Next I want to try the active stull like digital and lightspeed, see if they actually make different sound.
The lightspeed makes a difference. I am using it in the MyREFc and its fantastic. Very clear/transparent. If you are looking for that 'smudge' effect Peter was getting with the PEC maybe you need to modify it a bit with an extra resistor or something. I like the precision. The MyREFc does a nice job of producing something very smooth so that those unlistenable discs are again enjoyable. I really liked my regular LM3886 P2P amps and they were even more precise, but I found so many discs that I couldnt listen to anymore. So, this combo I am very pleased with.
BTW I have tried DACT style stepped, wirewound (very nice), carbon, and B1 with wirewound. I like the Lightspeed the best.
Uriah
BTW I have tried DACT style stepped, wirewound (very nice), carbon, and B1 with wirewound. I like the Lightspeed the best.
Uriah
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