terry j said:....the woofer would have to be seven feet behind the rest of the speaker.
7 feet = 160Hz FWIW
markus76 said:
Nils posted more recent data here (German but the diagrams speak for themselves):
http://www.beisammen.de/thread.php?threadid=93411
If understood correctly (through Google's translator), the multisub arrangement simply had all subwoofers active at front and rear walls. A more instructive comparison would be with 'an optimized' multisub setup with 3-4 subs placed around the room with gain/delay settings for each.
panomaniac said:
7 feet = 160Hz FWIW
did you derive that from seven feet at 2700 degrees?
that is interesting, I cross my woofers at 200, yet due to the way I have differently measured (and hence corrected with the deqx, which 'fixes' phase and delay) I have been wondering about the match at the crossover point.
Have been wondering how to accurately measure the phase/time delay at the crossover point as I can manually compensate if I know the figures.
BUT it seems from the article I should not worry too much? (as I say, I no longer fuss at the very low frequencies, but was concerned at the effects at 200)
New Abbey owner
I was wondering if I could get some set-up advice from Markus. I recently bought 3 Abbey 12's from Earl (and picked them up) but still a little unclear on the best angle to set-up the speakers. I know they are not designed for on-axis listening but didn't know the best direction to point them as far as the right and left speakers. Also, since I am using the 3rd for a center channel, it would appear that would have to be on-axis at least to the sweet spot (or maybe not). Since i know Earl is at ALMA an CES, then I thought I would post here. Tried to email you Markus, but since I am new to the forum, it requires a few posts first. Appreciate any help.
I was wondering if I could get some set-up advice from Markus. I recently bought 3 Abbey 12's from Earl (and picked them up) but still a little unclear on the best angle to set-up the speakers. I know they are not designed for on-axis listening but didn't know the best direction to point them as far as the right and left speakers. Also, since I am using the 3rd for a center channel, it would appear that would have to be on-axis at least to the sweet spot (or maybe not). Since i know Earl is at ALMA an CES, then I thought I would post here. Tried to email you Markus, but since I am new to the forum, it requires a few posts first. Appreciate any help.
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The listening position closer to the speakers is 15° from the speaker axis ("more compatible") whereas the second position is 20° ("smoother frequency response").
Best, Markus
Re: New Abbey owner
I would agree with Marcus angles, but I might try and move the speakers a little further appart. The distance from center to L/R speaker should be "about" the same as the distance to the side walls. So take the room width, divide by 4 and thats the distance to walls and center speaker. You can move the speakers a littler farther out than that, but I wouldn't move them closer.
randybes said:I was wondering if I could get some set-up advice from Markus. I recently bought 3 Abbey 12's from Earl (and picked them up) but still a little unclear on the best angle to set-up the speakers. I know they are not designed for on-axis listening but didn't know the best direction to point them as far as the right and left speakers. Also, since I am using the 3rd for a center channel, it would appear that would have to be on-axis at least to the sweet spot (or maybe not). Since i know Earl is at ALMA an CES, then I thought I would post here. Tried to email you Markus, but since I am new to the forum, it requires a few posts first. Appreciate any help.
I would agree with Marcus angles, but I might try and move the speakers a little further appart. The distance from center to L/R speaker should be "about" the same as the distance to the side walls. So take the room width, divide by 4 and thats the distance to walls and center speaker. You can move the speakers a littler farther out than that, but I wouldn't move them closer.
At what distance (screen width, listening distance, L/R separation) would you (Earl, Markus, anyone) consider a center channel to be beneficial or essential?
Also, is it only effective for movies or is there also a benefit for regular 2-channel stereo recordings?
Also, is it only effective for movies or is there also a benefit for regular 2-channel stereo recordings?
Re: Re: New Abbey owner
Why?
gedlee said:The distance from center to L/R speaker should be "about" the same as the distance to the side walls.
Why?
MartinQ said:At what distance (screen width, listening distance, L/R separation) would you (Earl, Markus, anyone) consider a center channel to be beneficial or essential?
Also, is it only effective for movies or is there also a benefit for regular 2-channel stereo recordings?
I would say that a center channel is always a benefit if the center signal is available or correctly derived from the L/R signals.
Re: Re: Re: New Abbey owner
Nothing profound, just an attempt to maximize the distances from the speakers to nearby objects.
markus76 said:
Why?
Nothing profound, just an attempt to maximize the distances from the speakers to nearby objects.
Dr Geddes,
I have sent you funds days ago. Called and email multiple times. Can you please just confirm the money was recieved and I am in the que?
Kris
I have sent you funds days ago. Called and email multiple times. Can you please just confirm the money was recieved and I am in the que?
Kris
Sorry Kris, I'm in LV at CES and not in touch as readily as I usually am. I think that evereything is fine now, right?
If white noise is used when setting up subs (their location), should I expect the measured response to be skewed? Would I be better off just using pink noise?
If white noise is used when setting up subs (their location), should I expect the measured response to be skewed? Would I be better off just using pink noise?
Depends on the analyzer you use.
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