Thanks, this info is helping 🙂Karsten, the unmodified SEAS was in the Breeze and my modified SEAS was in a multichamber reflex box i am currently working on. On HBs website you can see some pictures.
Regards
Karsten
Hi Karten... please could you tell us a few words of the result (sorry..I´m not the specialist for reading diagrams...)
very short:
both graphs, the black (Gradient AX8) and the red (Seas FA) are nearly parallel in all grafs. This means: both drivers should give nearly the exact performance in that enclosure.
Slight differences in impedance - who cares ?
or max SPL: here the Seas is "better" - probl. higher x-max ?
Don't care about the "high" towards deeper frequencies - it's a simulation, that excludes the effects of the small baffle-width.
The measurement (follow links) provide a perfekt fit.
Does anyone want to comment about EnABL
Not directly not having seen this driver, been i'd be surprised if this driver couldn't be made substantially better (Joachim is leading the way). I'd install phase plugs as well (whizzer cone drvers seem to get the most benefit from these)
dave
I have these speakers and am quite willing to experiment for the benefit of all.
However I would appreciate experienced direction/advice, having never done any of these mods, I know absolutely nothing
However I would appreciate experienced direction/advice, having never done any of these mods, I know absolutely nothing
I have absolutely nothing.
I will do one driver at a time so I can make a direct comparisons. However the comparisons will only be subjective listening tests, which in the end is all that matters I suppose.
I will do one driver at a time so I can make a direct comparisons. However the comparisons will only be subjective listening tests, which in the end is all that matters I suppose.
With EnABL you really need 2 to fully appreciate the difference as it has to do with increased downward dynamic range improving the 3d soundstage.
But still, one has to work with what they have.
dave
But still, one has to work with what they have.
dave
With EnABL you really need 2 to fully appreciate the difference as it has to do with increased downward dynamic range improving the 3d soundstage.
But still, one has to work with what they have.
dave
I obviously have two drivers, but I thought if I treat both of them at the same time then it might be difficult to give a fair unbiased evaluation of the modifications. That is it won't be possible to do an a/b comparison.
I obviously have two drivers, but I thought if I treat both of them at the same time then it might be difficult to give a fair unbiased evaluation of the modifications. That is it won't be possible to do an a/b comparison.
True, but mono vrs mono won't tell you anything about one of the largest beenfits of EnABL.
Treating them both won't allow any direct comparison.
dave
Hi Karten
very short:
both graphs, the black (Gradient AX8) and the red (Seas FA) are nearly parallel in all grafs. This means: both drivers should give nearly the exact performance in that enclosure.
Slight differences in impedance - who cares ?
or max SPL: here the Seas is "better" - probl. higher x-max ?
Don't care about the "high" towards deeper frequencies - it's a simulation, that excludes the effects of the small baffle-width.
The measurement (follow links) provide a perfekt fit.
Hello Joern,
thanks...I understand yozr message.
regards
Karsten
Another advantage, from a practical POV, if you do them both at the same time, the individual treatments will be closer together.
dave
dave
Here is a picture of the modified SEAS wideband, a view into the multichamber cabinet and the reflex tubes.
Hello Gerhard,
thats very intressting a kind of horn with reflex tunnel!?
regards
Karsten
I would follow the same basic recipe as for the FE167 here. The only change would be to move the rings to EnABL2 locations.
dave
dave
Karsten, i call it a multiresonator. I am still working on it. At first i put the reflex tube on the top near the driver. That created something like an anti resonator so there is little energy under 70Hz. I will now try to put the reflex tube at the bottom in the last camber and see how that works.
Scottmoose:
How critical is the enclosure volume as outlined in first post? If I brace up the enclosue as recomended by planet 10 do I need to increase volume per the bracing?
How critical is the enclosure volume as outlined in first post? If I brace up the enclosue as recomended by planet 10 do I need to increase volume per the bracing?
Scottmoose:
How critical is the enclosure volume as outlined in first post? If I brace up the enclosue as recomended by planet 10 do I need to increase volume per the bracing?
ML-TLs are usually pretty tolerant. If worried and if you use 18mm material, increase the width by 12mm.
dave
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