pre standard two preamp, and development of measurement methods

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syn08 said:
In single ended is much worse, but still acceptable for the DIYer.

Same card, same everything, in single ended mode. It pretty much sucks. Note the 60Hz harmonics, the channels asymmetry and the S/N ratio plunging down.
 

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syn08 said:
Here's what EMU 1212M can do in balanced mode. In single ended is much worse, but still acceptable for the DIYer.
Thanks for that measurement! I was planning to purchase an ESI Juli@, but the EMU card seems to be a better choice in the same price range, maybe (except for the 48kHz restriction, but I haven't checked that for the Juli@ )

- Klaus
 
KSTR said:
Thanks for that measurement! I was planning to purchase an ESI Juli@, but the EMU card seems to be a better choice in the same price range, maybe (except for the 48kHz restriction, but I haven't checked that for the Juli@ )

- Klaus

You are welcomed. Again, the limitation applies only for the internal loop (which you shouldn't use, anyway); you can use 192KHz to analyze an external signal.
 
syn08 said:
I have posted quite some time ago the reasons why a sound card is though not the best tool for serious measurements, I'll find the reference and repost.
Definitely. But we can agree it's pretty OK to do relative measurements (looking at changes) at least, can't we?

- Klaus
 
KSTR said:
Definitely. But we can agree it's pretty OK to do relative measurements (looking at changes) at least, can't we?

- Klaus

Maybe, I don't know. I don't use a sound card for my regular measurements, I quickly got sick of the dependencies on the signal level, AC coupling only, lack of attenuators, unknown bandwidth, etc... And looking at that board full of cheap electrolytics makes me dizzy.
 
Pavel,

what do you think of this material, a sandwich of aluminum foam between aluminum panels?

http://www.gecom-technologies.com/ems_haupt.htm
and especially
http://www.gecom-technologies.com/ems_messungen.htm
(@all: translate with google if you don't read german)

From the measurements they provide this looks pretty nice.

They are also trying to get into the HighEnd realms, from what I can see they do it very right, especially as they are very concerned with HF ingress and clean power supply. Devices that look that ugly as these have to be good 😉
http://www.gecom-technologies.com/audio_haupt.htm
(some english text there)
http://www.gecom-technologies.com/audio_entwicklung.htm

- Klaus
 
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