HF driver is practically the same on all Pepperpot thingies
though , impedance of VC can vary significantly , from series to series ...... never understood reason for that ....... someone at Tann factory had multiple personality disorder (same reason why I'm having string of green LEDs in every gadget of mine
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anyway , you can count on fact that all Pepperpots are the same ...... except down low , where 12 vs. 15" waveguide is making difference , so Fc can be different
though , impedance of VC can vary significantly , from series to series ...... never understood reason for that ....... someone at Tann factory had multiple personality disorder (same reason why I'm having string of green LEDs in every gadget of mine

anyway , you can count on fact that all Pepperpots are the same ...... except down low , where 12 vs. 15" waveguide is making difference , so Fc can be different
@Mr. NelsonDo you think it is not appropriate to use your B4 active crossover in place of the passive crossover?
I reread this sentence and I would not have explained myself badly.
If so, I apologize
What I wanted to say is:
if you believe that in my specific case with the tanny and since I have no way to take adequate measures it is better for me to use passive xover.
Thanks.
Lu
@Zen Mod
You're rigth !
someone at Tann factory had multiple personality disorder (same reason why I'm having string of green LEDs in every gadget of mine )
😀 😀 😀
Lu
You're rigth !
someone at Tann factory had multiple personality disorder (same reason why I'm having string of green LEDs in every gadget of mine )
😀 😀 😀
Lu
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If you can post a curve of the voltage appearing across the drivers vs
frequency for the speaker, then I can come up with an opinion as to
whether the crossovers designed so far can do it.
If not, it might suggest another new design.
I would like to do this for the MG15, but I am a newbie. Do I need an oscilloscope to do this?
I would like to do this for the MG15, but I am a newbie. Do I need an oscilloscope to do this?
You could accomplish it with a sound card and a proper voltage divider. You might need a buffer and/or correction fudge factor(s) for errors in the measurement setup.
Measuring the AC impedance of something that changes with frequency requires some knowledge and careful attention to detail(s).
In this case, you would be sweeping a low level input to your preamp
and measuring the voltage across the driver terminals. A sound card
and software like ARTA (free version) or other would do the job, but
some care must be taken to ensure that the ground at the load is
the same as the ground on the output of the soundcard. In cases
where there is uncertainty, a line-level type isolation transformer at the
input to the sound card is a good idea.
and measuring the voltage across the driver terminals. A sound card
and software like ARTA (free version) or other would do the job, but
some care must be taken to ensure that the ground at the load is
the same as the ground on the output of the soundcard. In cases
where there is uncertainty, a line-level type isolation transformer at the
input to the sound card is a good idea.
In this case, you would be sweeping a low level input to your preamp
and measuring the voltage across the driver terminals. A sound card
and software like ARTA (free version) or other would do the job
That sounds do-able. Is this a situation where you measure the voltages with a voltmeter and do the plotting manually? Or is there some way to do it automatically (as is the case with frequency vs SPL measurements?)
Also, is there anything that runs on the Mac / OS X that will do the job?
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That sounds do-able. Is this a situation where you measure the voltages with a voltmeter and do the plotting manually? Or is there some way to do it automatically (as is the case with frequency vs SPL measurements?)
Also, is there anything that runs on the Mac / OS X that will do the job?
I like FuzzMeasure, it’s $80 for a personal license. Just be aware that the predefined sweep stimulus starts at really low frequency (about 2Hz I think, and I don’t think you can change it, or maybe I just didn’t figure out how) so don’t turn it up too loud when running speaker measurements. Add a umm-6 usb measurement mic from parts express ($65) and you can actually perform decent acoustic measuments. I used a similar setup when setting up my home brew speakers with my B4.
FuzzMeasure - RODETEST
Dayton Audio UMM-6 USB Measurement Microphone
In this case, you would be sweeping a low level input to your preamp
and measuring the voltage across the driver terminals. A sound card
and software like ARTA (free version) or other would do the job, but
some care must be taken to ensure that the ground at the load is
the same as the ground on the output of the soundcard. In cases
where there is uncertainty, a line-level type isolation transformer at the
input to the sound card is a good idea.
Here you'll find the measurements , made on Tannoy HPD385, HF an LF drivers , I hope they will be of any use 😉
drivers are in perfect shape and measurements were made in free air.
hpd385 test.doc - Fichier Doc
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Here you'll find the measurements , made on Tannoy HPD385, HF an LF drivers , I hope they will be of any use 😉
drivers are in perfect shape and measurements were made in free air.
hpd385 test.doc - Fichier Doc
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I think that answers my earlier question. I assume this was done with the amplifier connected directly to the driver....
I think that answers my earlier question. I assume this was done with the amplifier connected directly to the driver....
Yes , drivers connected at the amplifier output 😉
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Ok. I just need something that can generate test tones on a mac. No sound card needed: mac --> optical out --> Buffalo III SE --> amp ---> pepperpot. But your measurements from the HPD probably carry over so may not be needed in the end.
REW or Arta are able to do so , but dont know if there is an Mac version , you may try to have a look 😉
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I use REW on my Mac for signal generation. Seems to work fine.
REW - Room EQ Wizard Room Acoustics Software
REW - Room EQ Wizard Room Acoustics Software
I run ARTA on my Mac with Crossover from Codeweavers...works perfectly.
Download from: Run Windows Software on Mac with CrossOver | CodeWeavers
Download from: Run Windows Software on Mac with CrossOver | CodeWeavers
Ok. I just need something that can generate test tones on a mac. No sound card needed: mac --> optical out --> Buffalo III SE --> amp ---> pepperpot. But your measurements from the HPD probably carry over so may not be needed in the end.
FuzzMeasure or MATAA.
I use REW on my Mac for signal generation. Seems to work fine.
REW - Room EQ Wizard Room Acoustics Software
Just installed. I think the sine wave sounds better than the square wave. ;-)
Nelson, do you think the new active xover will have suitable adjustment to level out the dip in the mid range respose of the attached plot?
I currently use a shelf filter in minidsp to drop the FR below 4khz.
I'm sure your active xover will be a lot better than minidsp....
Many thanks, Dave
I currently use a shelf filter in minidsp to drop the FR below 4khz.
I'm sure your active xover will be a lot better than minidsp....
Many thanks, Dave
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