JohnnyBoy said:
Really. There isn't a store within 1000 miles of here that would even know of anything discussed on this forum. If you have that available to you as a third option, it would make sense to use it, sure. Most don't. Make the best of what you have I guess. Personally I'd trust good specs over any review.
Certain specs btw Nuforce refused when asked for back in the day, even came up with silly stories about the test equipment being on the other side of town etc.. I wonder if they'd be more willing to publish such a thing now.
Ears are simply yet another tool, not the sole one.
classd4sure said:
But to not follow your ears is to reject yourself. It's to say you don't matter.
Sander Sassen's review of the HP nc6120 notebook left me no option but stop taking the site serious. The quote below should help explain why.
"All users of computer artifacts are painfully aware of the low quality of software." --Computers in Context: The Philosophy and Practice of Systems Design. A great book by the way.
classd4sure said:
No they don't.
I dragged my mate and his wife down the hi-fi shop for a demo of a Rega Planar2 and a Rega Planar3... with a Creek Audio something or another and some Achneroyde speakers.
He had previously been down the department store for a listen to something or another.
Apart from the fact the department store thing sounded like ****.....
He paid attention to his wife going dreamy eyed in the demo room and handed over the dosh.
Obviously he claimed all credit.
I'm not sure about the cost of cleaning the 'wet patch'.
DNA
Mind you, when I went off to buy my Rega Planar3 the shop I visited tried to sell me some piece of immense bollocks. Hey Ho.
Later on I smacked my guitar through my Planar3. I spent a lot of time French Polishing my guitar..... Some of you might understand that.
classd4sure said:
When it comes to buying audio, ears are the only tool that matters. I've heard a lot of gear with great specs that sounds like crap and vise versa. You obviously haven't been in audio very long. If you can't trust your ears, you need to find a new hobby.
classd4sure said:
Hmm dunno, I guess you will need a very long power cord for a missile 😀
But here you will find the stock item from Skynet.
Anyway I am using exactly these SNP-Z30 an SNP-Z20 PSU’s for industrial thermal transfer printers and these are one of the few SMPSU that survive the harsh industrial mains in the long run and don’t need a fan (important in dusty/polluted environments).
Never tried to power an amp with it 😀
Cheers 😉
I suspect one factor that raises the Nuforce above the pale, in reviewers' opinions, is the regulated supply. Not many amps have regulated supplies on their outputs.
They could probably patent having "Nuforce" on their holdup caps, ey? Another patent on the wall.
I also suspect, but haven't verified first-hand, that switching does for power supplies what it does for amps. Nuforce probably thus has *two* important psu-related factors distinguishing it from other amps. Anyone heard a UcD with a regulated switching supply?
serengetiplains said:
No idea, might have a copyright on it though.
You'd have to ask Floor Sander if it 'poomp up de bass'.
DNA
I'll take warnings NOW!
Yes, yes, they probably decided they needed the super holdup caps to sustain +40dB bass humps for the younger folk.
JohnnyBoy said:
Damn JohnnyBoy, you're making my point for me. "When it comes to buying".. at first I thought you were a salesman, quoting them verbatim like that, it was an easy mistake to have made. Now it's plain to see you're just another victim of them, firmly programmed.
As I tried to point out to you already, you'd be wise to use all the tools you have available. Your ears are not the sole factor, not even in audio. Try availability, cost, requirements, specifications (not the ones the salesman tells you, really, there's more), user feedback, reputation...
Don't tell me if you got to audition one of the first Nuforce amps at home, loved the sound and bought it only to have it blow up in a week and take out your speakers, you'd have been happy because it sounded as it did the whole week that it lasted, and run and buy another one just like it.
Try and think for yourself, for a first. Put the review books down, stop allowing your brain to be filled by sales pitches and marketing, and maybe we'll have a conversation.
Regards,
Chris
Yes, some good specs sound like cr@p. However, there are piles of research done that show that the ear, actually the brain, is very easily fooled by all sorts of influences. If you really believe you can trust your ears, I'd be willing to bet you have fooled yourself a few times in the past. That's not lack of character or experience, or the good old 'your setup doesn't have enough resolution to hear this-and-that' audiophool excuse, but purely the working of the brains. I'd advise anybody to doubt their ears almost as much as the specs on paper. Specs and listening make a nice combo though. Still not 'perfect', but it's all we have.JohnnyBoy said:
What kind of a rediculous reasoning is that?phn said:
Ooh boohoo
And a good deal of the page filling is yours. So what are you expecting exactly?
Now you've done it. I warned you... My eyes are getting all moist. Why dear Lord did I make those THD plots this afternoon. Why... oh... WHY?? I'm gonna tear up those bloody print right now and drown myself in a bottle of Lagavulin...
Canadian, Dutch, German, Spaniards... you won't believe how many different nationalities there are in the world outside the borders of 'the island' 😎Genomerics said:
Back to my bottle...
Hans L said:
Exactly. The critics have to either offer an alternative OR give the criteria for being Amp of the Year. I have seen none of that. What we have now is somebody saying, "That movie didn't deserve the Oscar," but can't say which movie should win it instead. In other words, it's all worthless.
Hans L said:
Is that aimed at me? I think you should aim that to the people here that think their opinions don't matter.
Hans L said:That would be your biased and subjective evaluation of this thread, right?
That was redundant
Hans L said:
As soon as people stop belittle themselves.
Hans L said:
Answered that already--1st one.
Hans L said:Now you've done it. I warned you... My eyes are getting all moist. Why dear Lord did I make those THD plots this afternoon. Why... oh... WHY?? I'm gonna tear up those bloody print right now and drown myself in a bottle of Lagavulin...
You warned me? What kind of schoolyard act is that?
I'm the wrong guy to ask about your THD plots. But then, asking yourself seems to be meaningless. So I guess none of us will ever know. And, no, I have no interest in knowing.
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