I already have a Raspberry Pi 3b. My music files are on an external USB hard drive. I will be using my iPad, iPhone or Macbook M1 Air to access the Moode Web Page through my WiFi. I can hard wire the Pi to my router with an Ethernet cable.
1. Do I need a touch screen to configure Moode?
2. Moode will allow me to access my music files on my hard drive connected to my Pi. Can I also add Internet Radio Streaming URLs to Moode?
3. Is there anything else I should know about installing Moode?
I am currently using RuneAudio but I have been having problems connecting lately. It worked OK for a couple of months; now I can no longer connect. But even before that issue I had problems with it not finding my music files. It’s been buggy and the support sketchy.
I want to try something new, i.e. Moode.
I hope this post is appropriate
Thanks….Jim
1. Do I need a touch screen to configure Moode?
2. Moode will allow me to access my music files on my hard drive connected to my Pi. Can I also add Internet Radio Streaming URLs to Moode?
3. Is there anything else I should know about installing Moode?
I am currently using RuneAudio but I have been having problems connecting lately. It worked OK for a couple of months; now I can no longer connect. But even before that issue I had problems with it not finding my music files. It’s been buggy and the support sketchy.
I want to try something new, i.e. Moode.
I hope this post is appropriate
Thanks….Jim
1.)No 2.)Yes 3.)Yes, moode setup guide
https://github.com/moode-player/moode/blob/master/www/setup.txt
https://github.com/moode-player/moode/blob/master/www/setup.txt
Need a little help.
Flashed the card just fine. The interface loads just fine. But it won’t let me get into ‘Network‘ under Configuration Settings. I need to enter the access point password.
Any ideas?
Flashed the card just fine. The interface loads just fine. But it won’t let me get into ‘Network‘ under Configuration Settings. I need to enter the access point password.
Any ideas?
Not sure I am the guy to help, but:
(1) are you still connected to the internet via a wired Ethernet?
(2) what are you trying to accomplish on the Network tab?
-- (a) Are you trying to set up a different wireless network with the Moode Player as the host?
-- (b) Are you trying to move off the wired Ethernet to a wireless connection?
-- (c) Are you just annoyed at the pop-up nag screen?
I use my wi-fi to connect to the internet, and when I just went to that page from my Chromebook, I get the same nag screen, I just click the little "x" in the upper right of that box.
Moode has two different functions with the WI-FI. One is to connect to the internet and uses the wireless card the way any client computer would, and the other is to run a separate ad-hoc network that you can connect to with just the Moode Player on it. I don't have any use for that function, so I don't use it.
So, if it's (2)(a) and you are trying to set up one of those ad-hoc networks with the Moode Player as a host, then you will need to enter some type of password anyway and the nag screen should not come back.
If the answer is (2)(b) or (2)(c), then I believe you can safely ignore the notification. At least I have never had to enter a password (guess I could have broke it, will find out tomorrow morning).
(1) are you still connected to the internet via a wired Ethernet?
(2) what are you trying to accomplish on the Network tab?
-- (a) Are you trying to set up a different wireless network with the Moode Player as the host?
-- (b) Are you trying to move off the wired Ethernet to a wireless connection?
-- (c) Are you just annoyed at the pop-up nag screen?
I use my wi-fi to connect to the internet, and when I just went to that page from my Chromebook, I get the same nag screen, I just click the little "x" in the upper right of that box.
Moode has two different functions with the WI-FI. One is to connect to the internet and uses the wireless card the way any client computer would, and the other is to run a separate ad-hoc network that you can connect to with just the Moode Player on it. I don't have any use for that function, so I don't use it.
So, if it's (2)(a) and you are trying to set up one of those ad-hoc networks with the Moode Player as a host, then you will need to enter some type of password anyway and the nag screen should not come back.
If the answer is (2)(b) or (2)(c), then I believe you can safely ignore the notification. At least I have never had to enter a password (guess I could have broke it, will find out tomorrow morning).
I've always set it up by powering on, waiting a minute or two, then connecting via WiFi to the access point that Moode creates. Doing this on my phone always necessitates deactivating mobile data completely. At that point, you need the IP to connect or you can use "moode.local" as a URL (though not on Android).
The next step there is to find your the wifi network you want it to use. After scanning and choosing one, you enter the password to the wifi network and restart. Then you should be able to access the device via IP. I use the Fing app to determine the IP.
Have never used Ethernet to set up before.
If it asks for a password, have you tried "Moode"? Or "Moodeaudio"? I vaguely recall there may have been a password requirement the last time I flashed and setup but can't be sure.
The next step there is to find your the wifi network you want it to use. After scanning and choosing one, you enter the password to the wifi network and restart. Then you should be able to access the device via IP. I use the Fing app to determine the IP.
Have never used Ethernet to set up before.
If it asks for a password, have you tried "Moode"? Or "Moodeaudio"? I vaguely recall there may have been a password requirement the last time I flashed and setup but can't be sure.
I feel like this was new on Moode 8. Also found this confusing.
To get UPnP working correctly for my setup on v8 vs v7, I also had to enable a "proxy streaming" seeing on my management app, BubbleUPnP. Just in case that becomes useful once you figure the setup out.
I brought this up in another Moode thread. I finally got mine working (8.3.2). I was originally on 8.3.0, and both in-place update AND Pi Imager using the Custom OS function and downloaded file from Moode had the same behavior you experienced - at boot it LOOKS fine, but once you try to change any settings, it causes a hang up of some kind.
For me, using the Moode 8.3.2 creation tool in Pi Imager under Media Player worked.
Another member stated Pi Imager just did not work for him even using the Media Player option, For him, the only thing that worked was Belena Etcher to create the SD.
Respectfully, I want to thank those that tried to help me. I could not get Moode to work for me. I bought a new sd card, flashed it and tried Moode again. This time I got nothing, no web page loaded. After waisting most of the day, yesterday, and part of this morning, I gave up on Moode. I’m sure it was my fault, likely misunderstanding, misinterpreting, the User Guide.
So I downloaded Volumio, flashed it, and it worked right off the bat. That is what am using now. It took about an half hour to get everything working. It found my SMSL DO100 DAC after a bit of time, even though it was not on Volumio’s list of DACs. It found and loaded my files on my USB hard drive. It has all my favorite radio stations, including Radio Paradise Channels in FLAC. It just worked.
That’s where I am now. Thanks to all for trying to help.
So I downloaded Volumio, flashed it, and it worked right off the bat. That is what am using now. It took about an half hour to get everything working. It found my SMSL DO100 DAC after a bit of time, even though it was not on Volumio’s list of DACs. It found and loaded my files on my USB hard drive. It has all my favorite radio stations, including Radio Paradise Channels in FLAC. It just worked.
That’s where I am now. Thanks to all for trying to help.
I should add one more piece of information when first installing Volumio. I opted for the free version. Volumio pushes the subscription model very hard. When installing for the first time it was tricky avoiding the subscription option. The path forward to install the free version is made more difficult with confusing choices and tiny text.
One option you might consider, maybe in the future, is Jriver's Id. You can buy the micro SD for $39 for your Pi (you don't need to buy their pre-assembled Intel based units). It's a one time cost - not a subscription. JRiver's UI is far superior to any free or near free software I've used. You CAN load JRiver on a Pi manually (you have to purchase a license for like $30 bucks or so), but it's cumbersome if you you're not used to linux. The Id SD is plug and play.
The only problem with Id is there is no Tidal, Qobuz, etc. integration, but you can stream to it via a controller app like BubbleUpNp. I actually have a Master License, so I use it on my Intel based PC and I can load it on my Pi (I think up to 10 devices). I did have it on my Pi, but wanted to try something else when I stuck it in my new Okto Dac8 Stereo.
JRiver also has a great remote app called JRemote.
https://jriver.com/Id/
The only problem with Id is there is no Tidal, Qobuz, etc. integration, but you can stream to it via a controller app like BubbleUpNp. I actually have a Master License, so I use it on my Intel based PC and I can load it on my Pi (I think up to 10 devices). I did have it on my Pi, but wanted to try something else when I stuck it in my new Okto Dac8 Stereo.
JRiver also has a great remote app called JRemote.
https://jriver.com/Id/
Thanks for the tip regarding JRiver Id. I noticed that a fully baked RPi 4 with the SD card is available for $115. That is a great deal. I have a RPi 3. Will that be compatible?
It should - the Id software has been available since before Pi4 came out. I don't know if it is available in both 32 and 64 bit versions - both versions are available if you DIY the setup, so you might want to email them to see.
Here is the main thread used for the Id.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,106807.0.html
As far as the fully baked Pi, I would check with them first, as Pies (sp? Pis might be more correct but looks weird) are currently pretty scarce, unless they have a stash of them. The Pi3 is fully capable so I don't know if I would spend the $$$ if you already have it.
Here is the main thread used for the Id.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,106807.0.html
As far as the fully baked Pi, I would check with them first, as Pies (sp? Pis might be more correct but looks weird) are currently pretty scarce, unless they have a stash of them. The Pi3 is fully capable so I don't know if I would spend the $$$ if you already have it.
Hey, thanks for your expert advice. You are an awesome guy willing to help.
Most appreciative..Jim
Most appreciative..Jim
I did order the IdPi for $39 + $3 shipping. If it’s as good as you say it will be worth It. Now I will have another streaming software to play with. Compared to the cost of some of the streaming hardware it’s a bargain.
Thanks Again!
Thanks Again!
Remember - JRiver does not stream in and of itself. The owner, Jim, is hard set on NOT adding streaming services to the program. Something about getting burned by them in the past - I think with the streaming services they were trying to work with switching their API or something.
BUT
You can activate Media Network functions with JRiver and stream to it as a renderer. That's what I've been doing using BubbleUpnp. JRiver beats all that I've found as far as allowed controls and functioning including DSP, etc.
There was even a problem I was having when I first played with streaming. When I was "checking things out" using Qobuz, I noticed the very first few milliseconds on high resolution music would get dropped. I would consistently reproduce it by playing 24/192 stream of "Low Rider" by War - the very beginning of the first strike of the cowbell at the beginning of the track would be missing.
I tested it with various player software (I haven't tried Moode yet as I have been really busy - haven't even listened to my setup in a couple of months), and the only one I could get to play without the initial drop out was JRiver. There was a setting, I forget what, but if you need to know I'll dig into it, that was able to play without the initial drop out. The drop out did NOT occur in any software when using lower bit/sample rate versions of the same song.
BUT
You can activate Media Network functions with JRiver and stream to it as a renderer. That's what I've been doing using BubbleUpnp. JRiver beats all that I've found as far as allowed controls and functioning including DSP, etc.
There was even a problem I was having when I first played with streaming. When I was "checking things out" using Qobuz, I noticed the very first few milliseconds on high resolution music would get dropped. I would consistently reproduce it by playing 24/192 stream of "Low Rider" by War - the very beginning of the first strike of the cowbell at the beginning of the track would be missing.
I tested it with various player software (I haven't tried Moode yet as I have been really busy - haven't even listened to my setup in a couple of months), and the only one I could get to play without the initial drop out was JRiver. There was a setting, I forget what, but if you need to know I'll dig into it, that was able to play without the initial drop out. The drop out did NOT occur in any software when using lower bit/sample rate versions of the same song.
I am interested only in streaming Internet Radio Stations like Radio Paradise and playing music files from my USB hard drive. I am not interested in using streaming services like Tidal, Qobuz….
