Could you look at the 12 Fane? I have a couple of those. Sealed seems to be what people are doing, or maybe open baffle with a woofer below. How would a Karlsonator work?
Slightly off topic, but where does one get Fane drivers in the US? The only sellers I can find seem to be in the UK and the shipping is prohibitively expensive.
Understood, thanks. I can't run akabak on my pc but it seems the T&S are not too far away from the Dayton drivers you have modelled for the XKi.
Seeing as I have only 2 drivers at hand, at can't easily get hold of 2 more (can you imagine - Norwegian Seas does not have a Norwegian distributor at the time being!), I am wondering if I should try to build one Karlsonator or two XKi's.
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Let me see if I can run a simulation for a 12in Fane 250TC and a SEAS in an XKi. There might be a way to use in a single Karlsonator but the aspect ratio might look funny. XKi is always an option as well. Give me a few days.
Looks like Solen in Canada is your closest bet. You searched for Fane - Solen Electronique Inc.
Be sure to change the currency.
Try a 0.50x in H & D scale and 0.40x in W scale single driver Karlsonator for the Seas MCA-12RC. It should get -3dB at 60Hz and 87dB sensitivity.
Try the Fane 12-250TC in a 1.1x in H & D scale and 1.0x in W scale Karlsonator. Should be 96dB sensitive with a very shallow bass rolloff like the 15in Fane and -6dB at 45Hz and -3dB of 56Hz. But still has -10dB at 35Hz - so very extended response. Should work well. The K-aperture will also have the natural ability to shape that rising response and remove that harshness without any electronic EQ. The model shows a typical "Karlson W" dip near 350Hz. I am not sure if the real speaker will have as deep of a dip - generally they don't so I would not worry about that too much. Often adding damping foam on the inside of the front chamber can help reduce this.
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Much appreciated! I wil try a singel first to see what it sounds like in stereo, then consider a dual.
Would an Eminence Beta12 LTA be a good choice for a full size build? It looks like you can get a pair for $94.98USD shipped direct from Eminence on their website. I initially ruled them out because from Partsxpress they're $79.99 each. I still don't know of an affordable tweeter to pair with them, unless the cheaper piezo units from GRS will work in a K-tube of some sort, as I have both GRS PZ1188 Piezo Horn Driver Part # 292-450 and GRS PZ1142 Piezo Bullet Horn Driver Part # 292-448 currently on hand.
Vas on Emminence is double at 136L. The cabinet will be too big, IMO. Suggested alignment is nearly 8cu ft vented box. The Karlsonator won't make it smaller.
here's fudge sims based on the Acoustic Control 115 K-box for 12LTA in K15 and X15 Karlson sizes.
Also in-room LF measurements of 12LTA in the stock Karlsonator12, plus a YouTube video
youtube video 12LTA in Karlsonator12
Also in-room LF measurements of 12LTA in the stock Karlsonator12, plus a YouTube video
youtube video 12LTA in Karlsonator12
12LTA will play ok in the little Karlson K12 - not low and not the punch of a Pyle PYM1298 (Kappa12 equivalent)
here's soprano and harp w. 12LTA - that album has mildly pronounced sibilants - but the helper tweeter needed more attenuation. IIRC the camera mic was back maybe 9 feet.
Danley's Harley bike startup recording played well with K12/12LTA - but Nirvana's Super10 ferrite in a reflex was tragic with large - useless excursions.
soprano and harp
YouTube
brushes and kick drum ("ripe") on a really beat Karlsonette type with ~12 sq.in. port in K15 position. That same cabinet with PYM1298 topped with a K-tube has more "grab" than my Klipschorn.
sloppy kick drum (sounded better in - person)
YouTube
fwiw a fudged sim of K12/12LTA
here's soprano and harp w. 12LTA - that album has mildly pronounced sibilants - but the helper tweeter needed more attenuation. IIRC the camera mic was back maybe 9 feet.
Danley's Harley bike startup recording played well with K12/12LTA - but Nirvana's Super10 ferrite in a reflex was tragic with large - useless excursions.
soprano and harp
YouTube
brushes and kick drum ("ripe") on a really beat Karlsonette type with ~12 sq.in. port in K15 position. That same cabinet with PYM1298 topped with a K-tube has more "grab" than my Klipschorn.
sloppy kick drum (sounded better in - person)
YouTube
fwiw a fudged sim of K12/12LTA
one rough guess
Thanks- wow that looks awesome, So would I use the 0.53? sorry im a scrub lol still learning all this. still learning how wo convert hornresp into plans lol
I can't fudge a Karlsonator yet with hornresp - Akabak is needed - maybe XRK971 when he has time can run a PA165 sim for you if you ask him.
The cabinet I posted is a MLTL and a skinny pipe in this case. What tweeter might you use ?
Here are its dimensions:
The cabinet I posted is a MLTL and a skinny pipe in this case. What tweeter might you use ?
Here are its dimensions:
I can't fudge a Karlsonator yet with hornresp - Akabak is needed - maybe XRK971 when he has time can run a PA165 sim for you if you ask him.
The cabinet I posted is a MLTL and a skinny pipe in this case. What tweeter might you use ?
Here are its dimensions:
Ah i see, Yeah I cant run Akabak- i dont have anything old enough for that. Thats good to know its a MLTL, its what I originally wanted for these. But getting help for a noob is pulling teeth,. Im going to Pair it with a CDX1-1010
