Mini Karlsonator (0.53X) with Dual TC9FDs

I had a cheap black board running without any heatsink.
I do not know this specific module, but it i think it should be adequate.
My guess is that they put those huge heatsinks onto those boards just to make them look big.
Maybe there would be more benefits from shorter traces which would require smaller heatsinks.
 
its a lot cheaper to have oversized heatsinks on that chip than say a Krell 😀 I had a Belles A many years ago - convection currents could be seen rising above the amp - it had a dark/laidback soundstage - Belles completely rebuilt it as an AB - less heat - a more forwards and subjectively brighter sound - here's the board whose heatsink I was questioning http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/sEYAAOSwgQ9V5USY/s-l500.jpg
 
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So here are the 0.4x Karlsonator's that I made. I found red and black foam board at Hobby Lobby and thought they might look good together. I used two Aurasound NS3-193-8A's that I already had. After playing them for a few hours they are sounding really good, good low end. Question, do you guys think the TC9FD's would sound better? I had the Aura's. Thanks
 

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So here are the 0.4x Karlsonator's that I made. I found red and black foam board at Hobby Lobby and thought they might look good together. I used two Aurasound NS3-193-8A's that I already had. After playing them for a few hours they are sounding really good, good low end. Question, do you guys think the TC9FD's would sound better? I had the Aura's. Thanks


Nice work! I have not heard an NS3-193 before but the specs show that it can dig deep given the 9.5mm xmax. That is huge, but the sensitivity is down by 5dB vs TC9FD. So for lower amp power, the TC9FD will sound louder, but turning it up, they should be similar given their mid and HF response. The TC9FD probably would have a more refined sound and better clarity. It's cheap so why not try it at $10 ea?
 
The TC9FD probably would have a more refined sound and better clarity. It's cheap so why not try it at $10 ea?

Thanks xrk71. Your right about that, they are cheap, so it is definitely worth giving it a try. I'll order some up. One more question. I built one of them with the little brace on the inside of the front slot baffle and one without. Can't really tell a difference. What is the purpose of the brace? Vibration of the baffle?
 
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A10.3 for Karlsonator

I received a request from a member who was interested in using the A10.3 in a K'nator. Unfortunately, the T/S parameters are such that it is not ideally suited to get deep bass extension. To get bass of 50Hz -3dB requires a 0.70x scale length and at minimum 0.60x scale width to fit driver bezel. It should be narrower though. As such, it produces a bass overshoot due to excessive volume. I don't have time at present to modify the code to account for less depth to reduce volume, but that may work. I would guess reduce the depth by scaling it an additional 0.7x on top of the 0.70x already for 0.5x overall depth to remove bass peak overshoot.

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If it were designed for flat response, the f3 would only be about 72Hz, this would be an 0.47x scale all round:

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Being reasonably familiar with Karlsonators and the A10.3 😉, I think you should be forewarned that this would likely have a very warm tonal balance. If that's what you like you'll be happy, but some might find it a bit dull. The 10.3 already sounds a bit 'vintage', and has a FR such that it doesn't really need BSC in a simple BR near the wall. One possible advantage however might be improved dispersion in the top octave. Those drivers are a bit directional if direct radiating.

Still, a simple conical ML-TQWT might be more fitting for most peoples' taste.

If you did have them in Karlsonators, I'd be inclined to count on some extra stuffing to help control any bass peaking.
 
hi X - - do you think its worth a try to put Beta10cx in the Karlsonator12? - the tuning of my K-nator12 is quite a bit lower than what was considered ideal in one of your sims - ideally I'll have to round up an ASD1001 and fudge the recommended 3/20 ohm l-pad as there's an old APT50 on the cx currently

Karlsonator12 played very well fullrange with my old stamped frame Nirvana Super10 with none of the reflex wimpiness - also the best I heard with Beta12lta although I think that would play nice in K15 (with less LF extension than the smaller Karlsonator12)

your simulation -there might be another sim with lower tuning (?)
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12lta Z in my Karlsonator12 built to Greg B's drawing
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my other Beta10cx is in the little 0.62 scale K15 - in ways its bass is more exciting than my new front load 7
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right now that ~40Hz tuning is all I can do with already built Karlsonator 12s - other than open up the top of the slot - - but there is a removable panel which forms the output of the "stub" - would shortening the path that way raise tuning or is it dominated by the vent and vent to front cavity coupling?

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