well, in place of small source follower/level shifter, in case of using T0220, I would use ..... say 30mA-35mA, while in case of weeny T092, say that 15mA is both safe and certainly enough current for my goals
we'll see ........ life is fun
we'll see ........ life is fun
How is the thermal stability of this biasing scheme with a normal N+P-channel MOSFET follower (like M2)? I tested a simplified version of this today with a JFET CCS instead of the precision CCS you suggest and I couldn't get the bias to stabilize. As the output FETs warmed up, bias just kept creeping upwards. I tried incorporating thermal feedback with an NTC, which helped slow the runaway, but did not entirely fix the problem.
it works flawlessly , with all of these arrangements in OS:
NMos + PMos
(small mosfet in front of) NSIT + PMos
(small mosfet in front of cascoded) NJFet + PMos
NMos + (small mosfet in front of) Germanium
NMos + (small mosfet in front of) Big Fat bjt
NMos + (small mosfet in front of) Schaded PMos
(small mosfet in front of) Big Fat N bjt + (small mosfet in front of) Big Fat P bjt
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you can't use JFet CCS there - too much TempCo; try with plain resistor - it'll work tons better than JFet
current is, well, minuscule - you need great stability in temperature domain, and - as I chose set of compromises, also in voltage domain
already said that, for my knowledge ( seen some simplified schematic blocks) - Papa is using resistors for same purpose ....... ZM Chicken for that
NMos + PMos
(small mosfet in front of) NSIT + PMos
(small mosfet in front of cascoded) NJFet + PMos
NMos + (small mosfet in front of) Germanium
NMos + (small mosfet in front of) Big Fat bjt
NMos + (small mosfet in front of) Schaded PMos
(small mosfet in front of) Big Fat N bjt + (small mosfet in front of) Big Fat P bjt
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you can't use JFet CCS there - too much TempCo; try with plain resistor - it'll work tons better than JFet
current is, well, minuscule - you need great stability in temperature domain, and - as I chose set of compromises, also in voltage domain
already said that, for my knowledge ( seen some simplified schematic blocks) - Papa is using resistors for same purpose ....... ZM Chicken for that
300mW is 24V 12mA, borderline linear for TO220 mosfets. TO92 part will likely perform much better and those Supertex part is rated 1W @ 25C ambient. The higher Rds(on) such as the VP0550 would be more linear at sub 10ma current but comes with correspondingly lower gm.
Datasheet of J438 still downloadable from Digikey Access Denied
one detail more - me being all rage about that small P Channel mosfet for role as level shifter - really not a problem when xformer gain FE stage used - modulation envelope well greater than rails......
search for mosfet in case is for amps having active FE, and I don't want introducing elevated rails for FE, just for sake of "missing 2V"
in fact . missing 2V from voltage envelope from bottom side means 4Vpp missing overall ......

Thanks. I think I may have found the main issue - minor mistake on the breadboard.
OK, only you know that for sure ...... though , as I said - JFet as CCS is simply not good enough
I was thinking of some other solutions ( except resistor, yeah) but in the end, didn't found anything worth fussing, when ready made solution is available and, well, cheap in overall picture
it works flawlessly , with all of these arrangements in OS:......
I forgot to say - it works even with (small mosfet in front of) NSIT + PMos Puck
didn't tried exactly same for two big pucks, have different solution for that
one detail more - me being all rage about that small P Channel mosfet for role as level shifter...
Any particular reason you chose a FET over a BJT?
Any particular reason you chose a FET over a BJT?
Mr. Pass has written about the linearity of BJT vs linearity of MOSFET. MOSFET
gain increases ~forever. BJT gain increases to a peak and then decreases. This causes different harmonics for BJT vs MOSFET.
@ Itsmee
only that way - see sketches - R+ and R- reasonably symmetric/same values
in short - only if you have two mosfet gates at appropriate ends of R+ and R-, you can shape symmetrical/same behavior in both static and dynamic realms
use anything else than mosfet, expect either predictive or non-predictive control electrode (that being gate or base) current, plus different control voltage (mosfet vs. anything else) ...... so long symmetrical behavior of circuit
only that way - see sketches - R+ and R- reasonably symmetric/same values
in short - only if you have two mosfet gates at appropriate ends of R+ and R-, you can shape symmetrical/same behavior in both static and dynamic realms
use anything else than mosfet, expect either predictive or non-predictive control electrode (that being gate or base) current, plus different control voltage (mosfet vs. anything else) ...... so long symmetrical behavior of circuit
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Mr. Pass has written about the linearity of BJT vs linearity of MOSFET. MOSFET
gain increases ~forever. BJT gain increases to a peak and then decreases. This causes different harmonics for BJT vs MOSFET.
I was writing in "small mosfet" related musings strictly about mosfet used as source follower/level shifter
push enough current through, it is invisible in circuit per se, while doing everything I want it to do
regarding general contemplations about mos vs. bjt and vice versa, that's hardly a topic here
I am using bjt(s) in some of actual amps (OS), deliberately ..... and we'll see what result is going to be
stay tuned ( been listening for few days Ikebana Mono T-Bed-ed blasphemy amp - 2SA/2SC in output ......... it sung ....... after proper stereo test . I'll know was it just fun time, or is it worthy having a proper name) ........
A small 220-470uf bootstrap is enough when desired instead. 🙂... I don't want introducing elevated rails for FE, just for sake of "missing 2V"...
Hi Zen Mod,
please put me down for a pair of your SissySIT R.3 boards, when you have them ... 😉
I was having lots of Iq / offset variations with my SissySIT because of a lot of variation in wall AC voltage here ... would like to rebuild my SissySIT on the new boards 😀
Best regards, Claas
please put me down for a pair of your SissySIT R.3 boards, when you have them ... 😉
I was having lots of Iq / offset variations with my SissySIT because of a lot of variation in wall AC voltage here ... would like to rebuild my SissySIT on the new boards 😀
Best regards, Claas
ZM having ridiculous short-term memory ( besides having same ridiculous long-term memory
) , so - please - when you see that I have them, be alert

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tomorrow I'll get LuDEF to my friend Woland , to whom ears and brain I always trust ......... ......
preliminary and still not-so-detailed string of information from my Official Second set of Ears..... I got Goodness Approval 🙂
compared with reference (SissySIT) - no drawbacks, same character, little more detailed, Foot-tapping factor not disturbed
good enough for me

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