I wonder if they are related. I mean people get moved to tears even listening to simple radio ! How many musicians need/use high end systems...
Not denying a need for an excellent system for music reproduction though
C'mon.
Beethoven wasn't deaf in his early years. So had a viable reference to base everything on for work in his later years. If he were deaf from birth I don't think any of us would know who he is.
Dave.
Maybe he wasn't relevant to this discussion, you know, separating the art from the reproduction and all that
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I agree it is a recommended read, that why I was interested also in buying the "new" version...Wim, your are right, I thought it was a new book, but it was only new to me
sorry for the confuxion, but still a recommendable read.
Maybe he wasn't relevant to this discussion, you know, separating the art from the reproduction and all that
Yes, that is probably true.
FWIW, I have received my amphion one18 studio monitors.
Short and sweet, they are by far the best speaker I have ever heard. they slay, destroy and annihilate everything I have ever heard before??? talk about a nuit de noce. my best friend and girlfriend that has followed every step in my hobby for 5 years now and who has heard all the variation of my systems are also blown away and cannot believe how good the amphion are. its like, I was in low-fi all this time, and now, this is hifi!
Thing is, its such a huge step compared to audio note anj, ref 3a decapo, tannoy red 15 and wilson cub, focal cms 50, kh120 and everything else ive ever had, that I dont know what to think.
The amphion one 18 is so transparent I thought the decapo was trasparent, but the amphion is another big leap forward. the amphion one 18 is the most amazing sound I have ever heard. the bass is so clear, controlled and full yet just right. Its hard to describe but the bass is perfectly like you hear on headphones. clean, stop go stop go, kind of bass. always right with the right amount of punch. never boomy. weird seriously. it doesnt seem to bounce off the wall like all the other speaker I have ever had. it kind of stick to the image and with the sounds, never kind of escape. Its the best way I can describe the effect. They sound like my continuum for that. the but the continuum do not image even close to the amphion, but the bass of the amphion is like sealed enclosure, but better. I think the enclosure makes the sound not escape to much and reverbate in the room, they seem to interact less with the room then everything else I have had in my room.
Mentioning dynamics doesnt even make justice on how fast the speaker is. its like theres no speaker anymore. Its definitely the most dynamic sound I have ever heard. The overall resolution is so clear, its like no speaker. they disapear ridiculously. its like I hear the sound, no speaker in a room at all.
The amphion one18 beats the transparency of my hd 650 easily imaging is scary. phantom center is the most stable, pin point image I have ever heard. I hear the most subtle musical information, I can isolate every sound and analyse what is happening in the mix.
The thing that is the most impressive is how much of the reverbs and the room used in the production! I can hear all the small details of reverb, all the delay in the notes. a piano with all the harmonics are portrayed in a way I didnt knew it was possible. I can hear every back vocalist and almost focus on them and understand each delay of singners and sustain notes of instruments ect I can honestly say I have never experience that, not even in headphones. You hear all the details in the instruments. the harmonics of the piano is all there, they breathe and all the hard sustain and delayed notes are all portrayed. I feel there no speaker, but the real piano.
The image is lock stable. always normally, the image seems to kind of float and drift just a little. Not with the amphion.
All that I am saying I have had experience with other speaker I have own, but never to this extent. All the previous speaker I ever had were able to do some of what I described here, but not at this amplitude.
Honestly, im blown away. im keeping those
I'm in heaven!
Short and sweet, they are by far the best speaker I have ever heard. they slay, destroy and annihilate everything I have ever heard before??? talk about a nuit de noce. my best friend and girlfriend that has followed every step in my hobby for 5 years now and who has heard all the variation of my systems are also blown away and cannot believe how good the amphion are. its like, I was in low-fi all this time, and now, this is hifi!
Thing is, its such a huge step compared to audio note anj, ref 3a decapo, tannoy red 15 and wilson cub, focal cms 50, kh120 and everything else ive ever had, that I dont know what to think.
The amphion one 18 is so transparent I thought the decapo was trasparent, but the amphion is another big leap forward. the amphion one 18 is the most amazing sound I have ever heard. the bass is so clear, controlled and full yet just right. Its hard to describe but the bass is perfectly like you hear on headphones. clean, stop go stop go, kind of bass. always right with the right amount of punch. never boomy. weird seriously. it doesnt seem to bounce off the wall like all the other speaker I have ever had. it kind of stick to the image and with the sounds, never kind of escape. Its the best way I can describe the effect. They sound like my continuum for that. the but the continuum do not image even close to the amphion, but the bass of the amphion is like sealed enclosure, but better
. I think the enclosure makes the sound not escape to much and reverbate in the room, they seem to interact less with the room then everything else I have had in my room.Mentioning dynamics doesnt even make justice on how fast the speaker is. its like theres no speaker anymore. Its definitely the most dynamic sound I have ever heard. The overall resolution is so clear, its like no speaker. they disapear ridiculously. its like I hear the sound, no speaker in a room at all.
The amphion one18 beats the transparency of my hd 650 easily imaging is scary. phantom center is the most stable, pin point image I have ever heard. I hear the most subtle musical information, I can isolate every sound and analyse what is happening in the mix.
The thing that is the most impressive is how much of the reverbs and the room used in the production! I can hear all the small details of reverb, all the delay in the notes. a piano with all the harmonics are portrayed in a way I didnt knew it was possible. I can hear every back vocalist and almost focus on them and understand each delay of singners and sustain notes of instruments ect I can honestly say I have never experience that, not even in headphones. You hear all the details in the instruments. the harmonics of the piano is all there, they breathe and all the hard sustain and delayed notes are all portrayed. I feel there no speaker, but the real piano.
The image is lock stable. always normally, the image seems to kind of float and drift just a little. Not with the amphion.
All that I am saying I have had experience with other speaker I have own, but never to this extent. All the previous speaker I ever had were able to do some of what I described here, but not at this amplitude.
Honestly, im blown away. im keeping those
I'm in heaven!
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It sounded a little like an advertisement to me and had nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I note that he also put this as a stand alone topic, which is what he should have done in the first place - not here.
We all think our speakers are great. It goes without saying.
I'd love to see some actual measurements of those speakers!! Now that I would welcome!! But alas, I am sure that is too much to ask for - real data!
We all think our speakers are great. It goes without saying.
I'd love to see some actual measurements of those speakers!! Now that I would welcome!! But alas, I am sure that is too much to ask for - real data!
It would also describe Peter Walker.
Dave.
I knew Peter in the late 80's and he wasn't deaf at that time. I think he was about 75-80 then.
This suggests a good topic: "What noteworthy products were never listened to by their designers."
David S.
It was posted here because a little while back in this thread he said he was convinced by the discussion to try a waveguide speaker, and went with that one.
Being a pro monitor, it does seem like some measurements in the brochure could be expected. Some of their competitors with similar products publish loads of data, eg. Neumann:
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my goal was not a advertisement.
I will eventually take measurements, but I know that someone who did take measurements said it was one of the most flat FREQ of the test (compared to around 30 speaker). therefore, the measurement show show a really flat response. ill take some eventually and post on my thread.
I will eventually take measurements, but I know that someone who did take measurements said it was one of the most flat FREQ of the test (compared to around 30 speaker). therefore, the measurement show show a really flat response. ill take some eventually and post on my thread.
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I was impressed by Neumann's data sheets. I would have like more resolution on the polar maps though.