Since you're there, it might interest you to know that compression output angle have been asked to Kartesian, but without answer actually
I heard something like 1900€ for Wom250_vHE. Is that true? 😛
prices are now on the THLP website WOM250-VPA is €240 each. Can’t find the WOM250-VHE version though.
Speaker Kartesian Wom250_vPA, 8 ohm, 267 inch
Of course, it's a on demand model, so it just have to be asked. That how i had my hands on a oberton 12nsw600 just asking to tlhp and waiting a lot.
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Well, my order* arrived. Stay tuned...
* 2x Kartesian Sub120 Ferrite
3x SB65
2x SB Acoustics 5x8" PR
Got an interesting little speaker in the works, and the extra SB65 is for experiments.
Chris
* 2x Kartesian Sub120 Ferrite
3x SB65
2x SB Acoustics 5x8" PR
Got an interesting little speaker in the works, and the extra SB65 is for experiments.
Chris
Since you're there, it might interest you to know that compression output angle have been asked to Kartesian, but without answer actually
They answered a couple days ago.
37.4 full angle for the Cmp65.
My idea is triggered by a project description I found here. This is subject of a slightly controversial discussion, but appears very promising to me.What kind of crossover would you consider ??
Since I own (and love the sound of it!) a Quad 303, I'm considering to use 303 clone boards to power the speakers. And I'm looking for a coax system covering mid tone and treble ... loving my Tannoys too, in the end!
I'm in a very early stage right now, no plans yet, just an idea ...
I like the "TADish" 10" woofer that they show on their website. But I think it will cost an arm and a leg.
Regards
Charles
Edit: just saw that someone mentioned that one a few posts before.
Regards
Charles
Edit: just saw that someone mentioned that one a few posts before.
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Tlhp are super fast even on mail if you use the website ......
direct mails it’s another story
Alas, not for me 🙁 (customer and use of my id on the site...)... that's true they ship fast.
You can phone them if there's really a problem depending of your native langage, but since here we all talk english, it shouldn't be a big problem.
A simple mail to a merchand in their native language should suffice, but it shouldn't here and it's not my wish to run behind them for an answer, so I ordered the driver elswhere but continue to buy them crossover parts 🙂 and drivers in stock as they ship fast and have the best price within CE ... too bad as it was about an Audax driver ! I don't advice to purchase them drivers non in stock though... Wanted to buy french but if the suppliers don't support their own industries, what can I do more ??? So I purchased in Belgium a SB Acoustic and was happy to the very good service and price of CompacBel Belgium (shipment is free in CE above 100 euros iirc : that's a good point too and it's DP Services logistic : same as THLP !
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But you are never sure of the waiting time 😉
Anyway, they seem to have some Kartesian in stock, good thing ! It's not always Kaban behavior but who care...
Anyway, they seem to have some Kartesian in stock, good thing ! It's not always Kaban behavior but who care...
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According to the founder:
"We have been developing and producing exclusive speakers for prestigious brands in HiFi and Pro audio for more than 10 years.
In 2020, we created a range of products for enthusiasts and small structures.
Each of our products incorporates innovations, sometimes patented.
We do not make an "ordinary" product, the market is saturated with it. This vision explains the fact that we only have one reference per type of product: only the best.
All products are tested on our Klippel bench, then validated by listening sessions.
The published measurements were made on an IEC baffle in our 130m ^ 3 anechoic chamber, with an LMS system calibrated and verified by an independent laboratory: TüV.
Prototyping and production for series less than 150 - 200pcs are made in France , beyond that we have a production line in China in order to maintain our competitiveness.
Note that the 2 production lines follow the same assembly process, and the same quality controls.
Each of the loudspeaker components is developed by our R&D, and sometimes manufactured by us, with our specific machines (case of spiders for example).
We are therefore the opposite of a company importing Chinese products, as one might believe from reading you."
So far so good.
2 drivers from the website:
- Wib70_vPA
- Cmp65_vPA
"We have been developing and producing exclusive speakers for prestigious brands in HiFi and Pro audio for more than 10 years.
In 2020, we created a range of products for enthusiasts and small structures.
Each of our products incorporates innovations, sometimes patented.
We do not make an "ordinary" product, the market is saturated with it. This vision explains the fact that we only have one reference per type of product: only the best.
All products are tested on our Klippel bench, then validated by listening sessions.
The published measurements were made on an IEC baffle in our 130m ^ 3 anechoic chamber, with an LMS system calibrated and verified by an independent laboratory: TüV.
Prototyping and production for series less than 150 - 200pcs are made in France , beyond that we have a production line in China in order to maintain our competitiveness.
Note that the 2 production lines follow the same assembly process, and the same quality controls.
Each of the loudspeaker components is developed by our R&D, and sometimes manufactured by us, with our specific machines (case of spiders for example).
We are therefore the opposite of a company importing Chinese products, as one might believe from reading you."
So far so good.
2 drivers from the website:
- Wib70_vPA
- Cmp65_vPA
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Kartesian is a new brand for DIY, but they are already very established as OEM driver producer for big European high end speaker brands. The quality is never an issue with them, but their DIY-market bussiness model rely on THP as sole distributor, who had website issues due to the fire in the big OVHcloud datacenter in Strasbourg (France) last winter. So all is a bit complicated now as all their IT systems were on that datacenter that burned down...
It is a little pity that they don't make a 1.4" compression driver. 1.5" is a little "exotic" on my side of the pond.
Regards
Charles
Regards
Charles
Most manufacturers purchase parts in China, because making everything in-house would be cost prohibitive.
In the past we have seen how Erich from diysoundgroup put together a driver with parts from different suppliers (Denovo DNA-360) that is equal or better than a comparable A-brand driver (B&C DE250).
There is also no doubt that top quality parts are manufactured in China. The end products on Ali-express etc. are usually of mediocre quality, because the quality control in particular leaves much to be desired. The same quality control has long made the difference between the well-known A-brands and the generic Chinese clones.
Today, however, it is very well possible to locally produce complete drivers that meet the highest specifications in collaboration with specialized companies.
Compare the following Chinese drivers and components with the images above.
In the past we have seen how Erich from diysoundgroup put together a driver with parts from different suppliers (Denovo DNA-360) that is equal or better than a comparable A-brand driver (B&C DE250).
There is also no doubt that top quality parts are manufactured in China. The end products on Ali-express etc. are usually of mediocre quality, because the quality control in particular leaves much to be desired. The same quality control has long made the difference between the well-known A-brands and the generic Chinese clones.
Today, however, it is very well possible to locally produce complete drivers that meet the highest specifications in collaboration with specialized companies.
Compare the following Chinese drivers and components with the images above.
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