just don't let the m***&/ker start to sing.![]()
Subs don't sing, just make those weird things that in very exceptional conditions add to the rest without spoiling it...
Woofers are a different story, but a little old fashion for the heavy metal nine inches nails mainstream crowd...😀
In my whole life, my whole life, the worst subwoofer driver experience i had was with a so-called subwoofer from... Morel.
That company shouldnt be allowed to sell ''subwoofers''.
Few people really experienced a clean, effortless, 1st octave. Not that easy, i can tell ya.
Yeah for some the problem is they are jewish, and do nothing good...

Will have to try some of these Peerlss piece of junk... Or that Seas Jewel praised by Linkwitz...
Or what do i need a **** sub and the bloody first 2 octaves for?
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Subs don't sing
Like my sister on Karaoke nights: she thinks she can... What can we do? DSP her?
GDO: the TIW 250 XS is some special animal, really. Very capable driver that can act as a real subwoofer AND sing.
GDO: the TIW 250 XS is some special animal, really. Very capable driver that can act as a real subwoofer AND sing.
I don't want ANIMALS ! Am self sufficient...😛
Visaton, Faital and Volt (just to name a few) are making 10''-12'' that sure are very interesting for that kind of projects. In fact so good that you can start to think Air Motion and Compression drivers, rather than just widebands...
Like my sister on Karaoke nights: she thinks she can... What can we do? DSP her?
Antares Autotune.
oh, i forgot about the W6 series from JL audio (if you have the budget) that is some true high-end subwoofer stuff with capacities over 200hz.
I remember that i even had the project to build 2-way monitors with a 12W6v3 and a 950PB (active/DSP, needless to say...)
That is some ultra crazy sh!t but i'm pretty sure it's doable. Can you imagine the little monsters?
I remember that i even had the project to build 2-way monitors with a 12W6v3 and a 950PB (active/DSP, needless to say...)
That is some ultra crazy sh!t but i'm pretty sure it's doable. Can you imagine the little monsters?
oh, i forgot about the W6 series from JL audio (if you have the budget) that is some true high-end subwoofer stuff with capacities over 200hz.
I remember that i even had the project to build 2-way monitors with a 12W6v3 and a 950PB (active/DSP, needless to say...)
That is some ultra crazy sh!t but i'm pretty sure it's doable. Can you imagine the little monsters?
Monsters?😱
What happened to the FAST (excuse my language) notion of crossing around 150Hz? 😕
WWW (FAST) XOs are typically 150-450 Hz. We haven’t actually built a FAST with an XO that low and 450 Hz is new territory with the passive XO in Tysen V2.
dave
duct tape.
more vodka.
ear plugs.
Sounds like an episode of porn.
model #'s please
Both in Woden ML-TLs, Peerless 830870eN, Mark Audio Alpair 12pWeN.
dave
-The small ones don't have bass.
-With the large ones you can't move your head, if you do, tonal balance changes. And on top of that, the cone breakup distortions are not my cup of tea. Apparently this goes for most people, see Olive-Toole.
My regards to Olive and Toole, and my respects for their deep interest (marketing dpt...) in investigating the most-people side of things...😀
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Catchy phrase directly from marketing dept.
Come on, I'm sure you're part of western culture enough to realise people reel off marketing-type phrases like any other cliché that is well drummed into people's brains.
Doesn't mean a thing but, yes is often used against in an ad hominem point scoring way..
Both in Woden ML-TLs, Peerless 830870eN, Mark Audio Alpair 12pWeN.
dave
I'm not being smart-assy here, an honest question: is that the wideband drivers or the ''subwoofer'' drivers ?
Looks to me like we're having a case of two mommies here 🙂
It could also be that you've adjusted to headphone listening if it's what you do mostly. I don't understand your point about mic placement, where do you mean they are placed most times?
I've never had that in-the-head sound experience from headphones ever, or at least I've never considered the sound I get to be negative and therefore label it as such or consider that the sound is in my head - it is just definately not happening in all front of me like speakers because I know the sound is at my ears... so.. that is what it sounds like to me, at my ears. But with good headphones, it is around me with a lot of space and 3D-ness (including up, down, in front and behind me with some binaural recordings).
Most recordings are not made with a spaced stereo pair so reproducing any other recorded sound on spaced stereo speakers is a kind of arbitrary construct. Close micing is the norm or no mic at all - DI'd. Then you construct the stereo image as you want in the studio/computer. So when listening and wanting high fidelity, you should really expect to be hearing instruments as if your ear is up close where the microphone was placed. That often is slightly wierd when the sound is coming from speakers .
When you're producing something, although you may make many judgements on a spaced stereo pair of monitors, engineers check the final mix on all sorts of set-ups including headphones. In fact there are many producers/engineers who will use headphones as monitors for the final mix precisely because that is likely how it will be listened to today. I would hazzard a guess that mixing for headphone listening may well be either the norm these days or at least extremely common.
I should stress that I don't listen to classical, where spaced microphones are more common but even then you get mics over certain orchestra sections and mixed in.
I should stress that I don't listen to classical, where spaced microphones are more common but even then you get mics over certain orchestra sections and mixed in.
Buff, classical (or acoustical...) has never really been at the level of its rep...😛
The need to follow each note has almost always been stronger than the will of providing a convincing protraying of an acoustical live event, with all its flaws...
In these cases i also agree a pair of cans or whatever is good enough, even the ghettoblaster i use in my kitchen for almost any program...
Vintage Recording Equipment Excerpt - Georg Solti - The Golden Ring (Original BBC Mono - 1965) - YouTube 😀
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