Is there any Future for high-end PASSIVE multi-way

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In my whole life, my whole life, the worst subwoofer driver experience i had was with a so-called subwoofer from... Morel.

That company shouldnt be allowed to sell ''subwoofers''.

Few people really experienced a clean, effortless, 1st octave. Not that easy, i can tell ya.

Yeah for some the problem is they are jewish, and do nothing good...:worship:

Will have to try some of these Peerlss piece of junk... Or that Seas Jewel praised by Linkwitz...

Or what do i need a **** sub and the bloody first 2 octaves for?
 
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oh, i forgot about the W6 series from JL audio (if you have the budget) that is some true high-end subwoofer stuff with capacities over 200hz.

I remember that i even had the project to build 2-way monitors with a 12W6v3 and a 950PB (active/DSP, needless to say...)
That is some ultra crazy sh!t but i'm pretty sure it's doable. Can you imagine the little monsters?
 
oh, i forgot about the W6 series from JL audio (if you have the budget) that is some true high-end subwoofer stuff with capacities over 200hz.

I remember that i even had the project to build 2-way monitors with a 12W6v3 and a 950PB (active/DSP, needless to say...)
That is some ultra crazy sh!t but i'm pretty sure it's doable. Can you imagine the little monsters?

Monsters?😱
 
-The small ones don't have bass.
-With the large ones you can't move your head, if you do, tonal balance changes. And on top of that, the cone breakup distortions are not my cup of tea. Apparently this goes for most people, see Olive-Toole.

My regards to Olive and Toole, and my respects for their deep interest (marketing dpt...) in investigating the most-people side of things...😀
 
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Those are the helper woofers. You said subs, not me.

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It could also be that you've adjusted to headphone listening if it's what you do mostly. I don't understand your point about mic placement, where do you mean they are placed most times?

I've never had that in-the-head sound experience from headphones ever, or at least I've never considered the sound I get to be negative and therefore label it as such or consider that the sound is in my head - it is just definately not happening in all front of me like speakers because I know the sound is at my ears... so.. that is what it sounds like to me, at my ears. But with good headphones, it is around me with a lot of space and 3D-ness (including up, down, in front and behind me with some binaural recordings).

Most recordings are not made with a spaced stereo pair so reproducing any other recorded sound on spaced stereo speakers is a kind of arbitrary construct. Close micing is the norm or no mic at all - DI'd. Then you construct the stereo image as you want in the studio/computer. So when listening and wanting high fidelity, you should really expect to be hearing instruments as if your ear is up close where the microphone was placed. That often is slightly wierd when the sound is coming from speakers .

When you're producing something, although you may make many judgements on a spaced stereo pair of monitors, engineers check the final mix on all sorts of set-ups including headphones. In fact there are many producers/engineers who will use headphones as monitors for the final mix precisely because that is likely how it will be listened to today. I would hazzard a guess that mixing for headphone listening may well be either the norm these days or at least extremely common.

I should stress that I don't listen to classical, where spaced microphones are more common but even then you get mics over certain orchestra sections and mixed in.
 
I should stress that I don't listen to classical, where spaced microphones are more common but even then you get mics over certain orchestra sections and mixed in.

Buff, classical (or acoustical...) has never really been at the level of its rep...😛

The need to follow each note has almost always been stronger than the will of providing a convincing protraying of an acoustical live event, with all its flaws...

In these cases i also agree a pair of cans or whatever is good enough, even the ghettoblaster i use in my kitchen for almost any program...

Vintage Recording Equipment Excerpt - Georg Solti - The Golden Ring (Original BBC Mono - 1965) - YouTube 😀
 
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