We MUST resist.
The notion that only one solution is universally correct is something no good engineer would ever say.
I've been inside Genelec and Neumman powered monitors; toroids, opamps and chip amps. Rather call Digikey.
Catchy phrase directly from marketing dept.
...the usual one based on the reptilian fear of ''yeah, i might be missing something''
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my experience with class d was allright but not as good as compared to good mosfet voltage amp /mosfet output (lateral), or tubes.
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you honestly sound like a seller of class d amps
my experience with them leave lots to be desired compared to good mosfet voltage amp and mosfet output (lateral), or tubes.
you frankly sound like a seller of mosfet and tubes amps.
🙂
My point is: i think we (all humans) cannot identify, blindly, one amplifier to another if within their respective limits and if not defective/badly designed or used.
I'm not saying one is better than another, i say that we couldnt tell the difference other than by purely subjective ways.
That simple.
Like pocket money, mass market is not a well defined notion...😛
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"Tested at £2,160" - not cheap. I can build a pair of good 4way for that kind of money. But I understand there is a market for it. Like someone said "There are a lot of complicated rich people".
What's a good dsp module that can take digital signal either from USB or your cd player? It should have at least 8 outputs - 4 for each speakers if it's a 4way design.
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Speaking of DSP, you know what I hate in it? I hate when people think that if they apply DSP to ringing speakers they get high end results... Well, it is like it is affordable today to have a recording studio in garage, but it still suxs... :-(
What's a good dsp module that can take digital signal either from USB or your cd player? It should have at least 8 outputs - 4 for each speakers if it's a 4way design.
Good pro soundcards do sound very good, but require a computer which is not a friendly enough solution whatever the SO.
Cheap soundcards suck, as suck cheap dsp chips as ADAU1701, sounding far worse to me than cheap polar caps and small ferrite coils. No need to spend fortunes on caps and coils to get a better sound.
Pro xovers generally require pro level signals and as soundcards are not very convenient...
That said in the bass all gears sound the same and good enough (transparent) to me.
Midrange and highs are the real difficult material for all active and passive gear, dacs, dsp, amps,etc...
Gear, gear, gear, i am getting tired of gear...

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What's a good dsp module that can take digital signal either from USB or your cd player? It should have at least 8 outputs - 4 for each speakers if it's a 4way design.
Cheapest/easiest way (standalone) probably is with a nanoDIGI from miniDSP, then some multi-channels DAC or 4 DACs.
Not standalone is the PA route with computer/sound/card and a Lynx Aurora/Forrsell/etc...
3-way is with the autralian company DEQX, also standalone.
for the past 10 years or so my main system at home is a 3.5way based on a DEQX. I'm fortunate enough to have a midbass that can handle the massive EQ correction @ 25-35hz... But otherwise that's not easy to make (3.5way from a 3-way DSP), by the tweeter it's not ideal.
At this very moment i'm using the same DEQX with dig output to a 4x10HD that handles the midbass + subwoofers. Not bad at all but there is a lot of stuff in my living room...
At this very moment i'm using the same DEQX with dig output to a 4x10HD that handles the midbass + subwoofers. Not bad at all but there is a lot of stuff in my living room...
Cheapest/easiest way (standalone) probably is with a nanoDIGI from miniDSP, then some multi-channels DAC or 4 DACs.
More gear?😱
I only know people who took the direction from Passive to Active, but never the other way around.
It think it says a lot.
Hey, i have been using all the solutions i mentioned, including hours of intensive learning linux/brutefir command line programing, messing with Sigmastudio, etc...😀
And know what? I have become tired, really tired, of GEAR!😛
yeah I know, it's not simple/convenient at the moment.
I wish some integrated solution will come to surface in a near future
I wish some integrated solution will come to surface in a near future
For DIY it just doesn't make sense to use dsp since it actually complicates things, unless you just want to do it as a matter of interest. For companies who can afford the engineering, then they can make everything from the ground up with their own specialized dsp module, dac, amp on one circuit boards, then it makes more sense. I don't want to hook up to a computer every time I need to listen to music.
it's only complicated if you don't have the equipement and the knowledge for measurements.
I think DSP is only good for advanced DIYers, and i'm not saying that in any diminishing way, that is just a fact.
I think DSP is only good for advanced DIYers, and i'm not saying that in any diminishing way, that is just a fact.
Let's say i'd run an audio DIY school (!) i'd sure start with some very basic 2-way projects using simple 6db/oct passive xovers... But after a while i'd make projects using a DSP. I'm pretty sure some of the students would prefer the DSP way, just for the fun of it.
From my point of view, DSP is pure fun. But that's me!
From my point of view, DSP is pure fun. But that's me!
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Agreed for the ''wideband'' part, but the idea is still by using a real subwoofer, isnt it?
Wideband With Subwoofer WWS
but i'd rather go with
Subwoofer Assisting Wideband SAW
SAW™
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it's only complicated if you don't have the equipement and the knowledge for measurements.
I think DSP is only good for advanced DIYers, and i'm not saying that in any diminishing way, that is just a fact.
When I say "complicated", I don't mean "difficult". I mean you actually have to purchase extra stuffs and spend more money. In fact, dsp may actually easier to implement given you want to purchase extra gears. For passive, I don't really need anything extra.
I don't want to hook up to a bunch of stuffs if I have to switch to different speakers. I also like to try out different amps, cdp, tubes ... which actually more fun. And if you want to build a pair of speakers for your friends, they don't have to purchase a bunch of gears just to hear music.
"and i'm not saying that in any diminishing way, that is just a fact"
No problem. The world has too much evil already period.
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