I'm pulling up stakes in the Windows camp, dual-boot Linux as step #1

The only license I need is for Windows Office Professional 2010, which I bought via my employer's program, in '10. Heck, I just reinstalled it into a newer machine and the license works fine. I don't need no stinking Windows 365 lease.
I got a discounted copy of Office Pro 2019 to use on this machine as the Office 2007 that I got through an employer's program will not read some of the newer files written in Office. Office 2019 is my translator. It still bitches when I save something in .XLS.

That's one very nice motherboard.... remember when a "PC" motherboard was something like 12 by 18 inches?
I had an old Ryzen 7 3800X chip that has been sitting on my desk for at least two years. I saw a $99 motherboard that supported that chip on Amazon, so I bought it without thoroughly reading all the specs. It's too big to fit in any of the conventional cases that I have, including that big Thermaltake Cube. The board measures 12 inches by 10 inches. The only thing I could stuff it in was a 10 year old rack mount case. I found a RX580 video card for under $100. It works good, way above the price point, but they put the 12 volt power connector on the top. That's fine until I had finished the machine and tried to put the top on. Now an old GTX 1050 sits in its place.

I usually install Windows 10 from a flash drive and let it eat updates for a few days, which includes the W11 upgrade for machines deemed "good enough" by Microsoft. Last night I decided to take a short cut, so I downloaded a W11 ISO from Microsoft and used it. During the install I noticed that the "Decline MS 365" was the greyed choice and Accept was the preselected choice. EVIL.

Note that I unplug the SATA connector from all hard drives except the drive where I want MS to install Windows. In this case it's a 1TB SSD attached to the motherboard. MS will sometimes choose the first drive it finds. Let the installer run its course until the machine boots, runs, and eats all the updates that MS throws at it before plugging the spinning drives back in. They will be recognized with no issues if they were already formatted. If not, you need to run "Disk Management" which I have not yet found in W11.
 

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That's why for my personal travelling needs I went to Android Tablets and Chromebooks.

Yes, It sucks that I need a Google account and password for the Chromebook... I need to look into that one of these days... but so far it doesn't ask me for money.
 
Well, came down to my computer after 6 hours to find I need to log in. It had restarted, numlock off so I know it was a Microsoft pushed update. Open Office worked (surprise, it normally doesn't until I reboot the O/S), but Chrome won't start. I had to reboot the O/S to allow Chrome to start. Preferences are now gone - wonderful. Now I have to sign in to Google again (and find the password). Wait for it, no. Message sent to cellphone (upstairs) to authenticate the fact I am accessing my Google account.

No warning, no opportunity to defer or anything. And as usual, once Microsoft does an update, stuff doesn't work. Normally Open Office (competing with Microsoft Office) doesn't work as the Canary in the coal mine.

I am so sick of this crap! If Microsoft is going to push an update ... DON'T! First makes sure it doesn't break things (QC, what a concept!), then give us a choice or at least once we are done working. I had to recover files as the programs were forced to shut down remotely. If Microsoft had to pay for lost time and productivity they wouldn't be in business. Mind you, maybe that is what is needed to ensure a quality product.

Just plain shoddy. Yeah, I'm upset.
 
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Did you disable auto updates?

If you think Microsoft is bad.... try my employer's IT who things pushing "security updates" every two weeks and then rebooting.... Trust me, I charge for my time whenever I have to reconfigure my development environment - VPN, more passwords, more FOB, mount R&D file servers, mount license servers, mount connection to lab machines, restart the IDE and load the workspace and hope I didn't lose anything on the files I was working...

Microsoft is a PITA, yes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...AgiwAgHxBQkucgC1rdpD&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

BTW, clone your hard drive and keep your data in a separate hard drive from the OS.
 
Hi Tony,
Yes, I tried disabling auto-updates. When it does, it resets various user selections and I am simply tied of trying to find and fix all of them. It's my machine, I have my own security and I am so tired of fighting my equipment.

I run my own company so I eat all costs associated with Microsoft stupidity, and they are high in time. My boot drive is an SSD, data drive a 4TB spinner with off site mirror and NAS, 12TB raid. But when Microsoft forces a reboot and you have open files, they can be corrupted or lost.

Cloning the drive would have helped earlier. I got tired of doing it and got lazy. That cost me a ton of files I can't replace and over $2,000 to get back the rest (drive recovery). I have a ton of information and self-generated material and add to it all day long.

Win10 Pro in my case. I was happy with Win7 Pro, deeply displeased with Win10.
 
I dunno, I did change the registry in my Win 11 ( the link I showed ) and it stopped all such shenanigans.

My Win 10 Pro did do an unwanted "upgrade" to WIn 11 before I went and changed it. Having a clone drive saved my butt.

It is a PITA. I agree with you.
 
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Yes, I stopped reading once I saw it was for Win11. I will not be running Win11.

I did change the registry in Win10 to prevent auto-updates at one point, I had to edit it manually. Then I performed another update which reset the values. Fingers! Microsoft is the evil empire, they will not allow you to have it your way.
 
My problem. Win10 has been such a fight so far, compared to Win7 .. I do not trust Win11 one tiny bit. Early reports and continuing information I get from colleagues for Win11 are not good. Some still have silly issues.

I am only on Win10 for one reason. One program needed 10 as a security concern. That's it. I wish I could easily go back to Win7. The other sneaky thing I discovered was the difference between Pro and normal (Home I guess) is limited concurrent network sessions. You have to search for that information. Sneaky and underhanded, I need higher capacity. You just do not see these things with real operating systems. Only Windows.
 
Bad Apple, Bad Apple....

It's expensive, limited in what it can do and a closed environment.

If it satisfies your needs, your wants are limited, have no desire on understanding how it works and are willing to pay a premium then might as well go that way.

But otherwise, it's like wearing a straightjacket... and don't for a second think that Apple is any better at these things that Microsoft, they do it too, it's just that they can hide it better.

And as a developer, I do not like how Apple treats developers by fully controlling the application software and its merchandising. It was Apple that came up with the concept of the "Store"...


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"Linux".... well, it brings out a host of other issues.

1) Which distribution?
2) Still need to make sure the auto-update is turned off
3) Very little "easy to use" support
4) User is expected to have a mid-high level of understanding of the product
5) Nowhere the support of COTS products (HW and SW).

It is, the best OS from an architectural point of view, but it is seriously lacking from a commercial perspective.

It is, however, from a DIY point of view, the best... notice that Raspbian and Android are versions of "Linux". It is also very stable... I have a Ubuntu machine in the closet that has been running as an Apache server now for 20 years. OK, it started as a Red Hat machine, then 8 years later I switched it to Ubuntu and I think I've upgraded it three times since... but always under my own control and with no loss of functionality.

In my experience, though, Windows still provides the best balance, although it started to go the way of Apple with Win10 in introducing the controlled "Store" and the too often upgrades... at least they don't hide the upgrades like Apple.

To be honest, Windows 11 Pro is now quite stable. I eventually did allow my WIndow 10 Pro machine to upgrade itself -for free- to Win 11. But it was done under my control so nothing broke.
 
Hi Tony,
Agreed. The distribution used should match the way you think and what you're doing. I normally used Fedora since it is very close to the commercial Redhat version. Solid.

I have to get my head back into it. I don't mind CLI, since many phone switches and other networking devices are configured that way for basics, or for rescue (RS-232).
 
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