You are 100% correct!
It would be cool if we could group by areas and organize a convenient extensive listening session and then post here the highlights! That would be extremely productive but probably very hard to put in practice!
This video is quite well narrated and simply demonstrates how the digital audio processing behaves for basics. D/A and A/D | Digital Show and Tell (Monty Montgomery @ xiph.org) - YouTube
Perhaps true and generalization entirely incorrect....this sentence doesn't make any logical sense....I am either partially correct or completely wrong!!
Either way....why don't you check the review of the Lamm tube power amp on Stereophile...maybe the reviewer is completely wrong too
Maybe we could start a 'well recorded music' section, list what we think is well produced and worth listening to let alone buying. Some artists and groups/orchestras etc still make the effort to ensure that their recordings are decent, worth buying.
k, so your saying that tube is inferior to SS?Perhaps true and generalization entirely incorrect....this sentence doesn't make any logical sense....I am either partially correct or completely wrong!!
Either way....why don't you check the review of the Lamm tube power amp on Stereophile...maybe the reviewer is completely wrong too
If anybody is wondering why digital can't sound better than analogue, this lecture helps understanding some simple concepts/reasons!
Thanks for ousting this..
YES! Please read the article from stereophile then come talk to me!
While vinyl and digital are two completely different solution to reproducing a time domain analogue signal, when obviously one of them is clearly wrong, tube vs SS is the same soup doing, but tube pas the fee for limited technology (only one channel) and lots of other issue I mentioned.
Going bit more in depth, the output transformer and the ac coupled stages are the reason why they can't compete sonically to a well designed SS (haven't even scraped the surface of transconductance, frequency response, noise floor...)!!!
The tube vs solid state argument can never be won. There are many bad and some excellent examples of both around. I've heard tube amp's which sound incredible, clean, clear dynamic and silent during quiet passages. The best phono stage I ever owned used tubes. I know at least one designer who can build and 'tune' solid state amps to sound like tube's and make tube's sound MORE like solid state. It depends on implementation and it takes real effort. Tube amp measurements will not match transistors in areas like distortion but they can produce distortion levels so low that you wont ever notice it. When most speakers produce such high levels of distortion anyway, it makes getting too obsessed with amplifier distortion pointless. For me the downsides of tubes (when properly implemented) do not include sound quality. They do include purchase/build cost, replacement tube cost, too much heat on warm days, electricity consumption when we get charged so much for it nowadays (that has become an issue for me anyway) weight is also an issue - (my last tube power amp weighed nearly 40 kilos). Physical size is also an issue for me in a small UK house, I can't have several racks of kit set up in our front room.
If I had the money required, most of this list would cease to matter.
This is all in my opinion folks, there are no absolutes in this world.
If I had the money required, most of this list would cease to matter.
This is all in my opinion folks, there are no absolutes in this world.
This is true. But again professional reviewer are willing to admit that neutrality on tube is not in pair with SS.
However I agree that there are tubes with excellent sound and viceversa...
I just personally think that a tube power amplifier won't be as flexible when driving different loads and can easily deliver much easier the necessary amount of power for the most critical and difficult passages..
Absolutely my friend, tubes are excellent for amplifying voltage but sadly not very good with current. This is what's behind the trend for hybrid's but i'm not getting into the pros and cons of them
Tube's are also more fragile and large tube power amp's cost a small fortune in shipping costs. I know this only too well
Enjoy what we have while we can.
Slainte
Davy
Not so easy , I'm sure Uncle Sy will be along shortly to cloud the issue , with some quantum logic ...
let's see...
Absolutely my friend, tubes are excellent for amplifying voltage but sadly not very good with current. This is what's behind the trend for hybrid's but i'm not getting into the pros and cons of them
Tube's are also more fragile and large tube power amp's cost a small fortune in shipping costs. I know this only too well
Enjoy what we have while we can.
Slainte
Davy
Yes that is a valid point!
Anyway, my amp, each monoblocks is over 150lbs
Not so easy , I'm sure Uncle Sy will be along shortly to cloud the issue , with some quantum logic ...
Don't worry, Russ Andrews sells a device to deal with that issue
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Yes that is a valid point!
Anyway, my amp, each monoblocks is over 150lbs
Ah but they can repair hernias quite well these days, I only have a small 10cm scar from mine
Anyway, it's been fun folk's but I must try to get a few hours sleep. They never taught me about insomnia when I was a youngster
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Digital source and analog amplification? Tube preamps? Can you be more specific?
And there's already a "best sounding recordings" thread(s).
As example, in his liner notes Lou Reed made a point of describing NYC Man as the best remixing/remastering possible from the masters, notably "I'm Waiting for the Man."
Now you using troll speak.
You seem to have missed the part equating noise to bit depth, and that even best studio tape machines are only equivalent to 14 bits.
Even quietest commercially available electronics have noise floor above 24 bits, even the electronics in 24 bit A/D and D/A converters.
How many records in your collection are direct to disc?
Digital can sound no better than the analog signals fed into it; and analog output can be no better than the performance of its electronics.
This element remains same for vinyl record system, the bottle neck being the transcription system itself.
The first few pressings from a stamper are best. Assuming it is flawless, the first play may be very good indeed, accepting of course the limited channel separation, and the equalization required to make the record.
Vinyl is well suited to disposable music, and disposable money.
A nicer way to think about mechanical recordings is performance art: A great performance is something to cherish in memory, for no two performances are the same. But unlike performance art, where a future performance may well be better, each performance from a record can only be worse.
I suggest you review the lecture. Then you can demonstrate your understanding, and where it is lacking, forum members can tutor your understanding to higher fidelity.
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