I am just trying to learn here, thanks for the tip on diode snubbers.
Rob's question has not been answered. Since Jensen litterature does not refer to their 4-pole caps with the name T do I conclude that T-nets and T-foils are always BHC and they are in fact the same thing? If so how com Bert will try the T-foils after having tried the T-nets?
Rob's question has not been answered. Since Jensen litterature does not refer to their 4-pole caps with the name T do I conclude that T-nets and T-foils are always BHC and they are in fact the same thing? If so how com Bert will try the T-foils after having tried the T-nets?
Hi,
I thought the question was answered.
Since we know Jensen caps are T network without the slit foil technology, and BHC are T-networks with slit foil technology, I assumed he knew this and was asking if there's a sonic difference between the two.
To be saying "T-foil" I would also assume is Bert's way of saying BHC T-networks, I guess Jensen's are what he had tried.
Just so there's no more confusion:
Jensen: 4 pole caps (Same thing as a T-network, no slit foil)
BHC: 4 pole caps (Also T-networks, but with slit foil)
BHC: Slit foil (As on the Hypex HG supply, no T-network).
I thought the question was answered.
Since we know Jensen caps are T network without the slit foil technology, and BHC are T-networks with slit foil technology, I assumed he knew this and was asking if there's a sonic difference between the two.
To be saying "T-foil" I would also assume is Bert's way of saying BHC T-networks, I guess Jensen's are what he had tried.
Just so there's no more confusion:
Jensen: 4 pole caps (Same thing as a T-network, no slit foil)
BHC: 4 pole caps (Also T-networks, but with slit foil)
BHC: Slit foil (As on the Hypex HG supply, no T-network).
OK good. I was confused by Bert's terminology.
We all know that 4-poles and T-networks are the same thing, however 4-pole seems to be the name reserved for Jensen and T-network seems to be the name reserved for BHC.
So it would be easier if on the forum we used the same names that the manufacturers are using, especially when we skip the manufacturer's name.
We all know that 4-poles and T-networks are the same thing, however 4-pole seems to be the name reserved for Jensen and T-network seems to be the name reserved for BHC.
So it would be easier if on the forum we used the same names that the manufacturers are using, especially when we skip the manufacturer's name.
I totally agree. Since we all know it, the "slang" T-foil can be made sense of, as it can only mean a BHC 4 pole (heh), yet it isn't very kind to those who may not have looked it up yet. 😉
Chris, I don't use snubbers at all with the T-Net caps. from BHC.
Neither on my normal cap. config with the Vishay 102's.
I am also a bit disappointed really not the hear any improvement in sonics with the T-Nets.
I tried it with different speakers, dacs, different listeners but they confirmed....the same.
Maybe the normal caps. are so good that this is the reason I don't hear a difference.
Was kinda of annoyed after going through all this work to finally hear no improvement but I think this is the hobby part of it.
Neither on my normal cap. config with the Vishay 102's.
I am also a bit disappointed really not the hear any improvement in sonics with the T-Nets.
I tried it with different speakers, dacs, different listeners but they confirmed....the same.
Maybe the normal caps. are so good that this is the reason I don't hear a difference.
Was kinda of annoyed after going through all this work to finally hear no improvement but I think this is the hobby part of it.
the funny part is changing dacs or amps, like switching between an UCD vs rotel or nad, shows instant differences. Even switching between different preamps, active or passive, shows an instant difference in sonics.
Life can be hard
Life can be hard
Bgt said:Life can be hard
Don't know if there's an equivalent for this in english but:
Dat is geen probleem, het is een uitdaging!
(~ It's not a problem, it's a challenge)
matjans said:
true😉, but its nice if you get something in return but I know............this hobby, not always really
matjans said:
This sounds very familiar, managers in my previous company (big dutch electronics firm, no names 🙂) used this expression often, guess they had had some management course that tought them that 🙂
Gertjan
courage said:
You don't know what you are missing then.
I think the current limiting kicks in at 20A if i"m not wrong.
This means that max power would be reached at about 3 Ohm (assuming 60V peak out), that would effective be 600W at 3 Ohm.
At 2 Ohm you would get maximum of 400Watt (40V peak), and at 1 Ohm it would be 200Watt (20V peak).
Gertjan
ghemink said:
20A sounds right to me, rings a bell.
Courage if that's all the effort you're willing to put into it, might be best to visite ciaudio or something. Hey.... email me 🙂
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