FWIW, I think Dave is running these on a single ACA1.5. He's breaking in several new pieces of gear and interconnects - most notably I guess the Schiit Gungnir DAC, and wants to wait at least a few more days before running the pair in bridge mono mode, as well as inserting the Rotel pre in the mix.
I haven’t measured the Eikona yet, but it should be something like 5dB wrt to the outgoing A10PeN, half that when we compare to the A10.3eN. The ACA is doing fine, power will increase when i use 2 as monobloks.
dave
dave
Dave,
Good to see the progress - speakers built and now residing at Casa Duglos - now for some listening impressions. 🙂
Good to see the progress - speakers built and now residing at Casa Duglos - now for some listening impressions. 🙂
hi Dave,
Give them a solid week of play. I would be very interested in your opinion knowing the depth of your experience with full rangers. Specifically compared to the A10/A12 series. I think they may be in my future for another project for a graduation present.
Paul
Give them a solid week of play. I would be very interested in your opinion knowing the depth of your experience with full rangers. Specifically compared to the A10/A12 series. I think they may be in my future for another project for a graduation present.
Paul
Yes Zia, as PJN says… they need some break-in, 1st listen was very disappointing.
7/24 for a week and we’ll see how they have evolved.
dave
7/24 for a week and we’ll see how they have evolved.
dave
Stanney - yes, several of the SOTA "total" black paints have already been suggested, and as I noted repeatedly, the time and material required to prepare a plywood box for a perfect dead flat paint job that will not eventually telegraph stress joints is not something in which I care to invest.
While the Wilson Art Black Velvet plastic laminate came in a higher landed cost than originally estimated, it'll take probably an hour or two to completely skin the box, and it's been my experience that paint is not as durable as high pressure plastic laminate.
these were intended as a relatively quick proto, and this not my first rodeo
While the Wilson Art Black Velvet plastic laminate came in a higher landed cost than originally estimated, it'll take probably an hour or two to completely skin the box, and it's been my experience that paint is not as durable as high pressure plastic laminate.
these were intended as a relatively quick proto, and this not my first rodeo
I'm eager to hear any updates, now that the Eikonas are broken in a little...
Impressions and a review would be wonderful!
Impressions and a review would be wonderful!
Didn’t get a chance to relisten to them seriously again… soon.
And Scott gave me the small change needed to fit the less expensive A10.3/10p into these. Expect a plan update soon.
dave
And Scott gave me the small change needed to fit the less expensive A10.3/10p into these. Expect a plan update soon.
dave
I have just given them a quick listen in isolation (so day-to-day factors not canceled out). They are considerably better. Bass has tightened up — we were discussing adding more fill, not so sure now. Not as extended or as defined as A10s in FHXL (i do have a set of FHXLs i might be able to wrangle the Eikona into). They seem quite smooth, maybe too smooth, with some of the edges smooshed over. The soundstage is not as 3D as we have become used to with the EnABLed drivers. Female voices are good but have a bit of a “fuzz” to them as well as a bit of edge obscuring the beauty a bit.
Next i will take the time to compare to the Alpair 10PeN (they are sitting right behind the obelisks so an easy swap, but the real head-to-head will be with Chris’ A10.3eN Pensils (in the shop getting a veneer job).
So lots of time to get more real-world hours on them. If anything like the A10.3 that can be nothing but a benefit.
dave
Next i will take the time to compare to the Alpair 10PeN (they are sitting right behind the obelisks so an easy swap, but the real head-to-head will be with Chris’ A10.3eN Pensils (in the shop getting a veneer job).
So lots of time to get more real-world hours on them. If anything like the A10.3 that can be nothing but a benefit.
dave
Oh no, those Pensils have been firmly re-ensconced in my HT system since last weekend, so it'll take a special trip to get them to the mountain.
In the meantime, have you bridged the ACA's yet - or still playing around upstream of that point?
In the meantime, have you bridged the ACA's yet - or still playing around upstream of that point?
You were warned that they would be needed to compare to the Hawling :^)
Still mucking with upstream stuff.
dave
I read about this project on Colin's newsletter but didn't realise you guys were doing it. Ten or more years ago I built a pair of VTL's and, inspired by the shape went for a monolinth type finish - sprayed dark slate grey and of course not in the right dimensions compared your homage.
Since then I've built DCR's using twin Eikonas and are now on a pair of 4 aside transmission lines. To be honest I don't recognise your description of the sound which you seem to be disappointed in. I've also built Frugalhorns and XL's. As good as they are I think the Eikonas are well worth the extra money over the Alpairs. Let's hope your running in and further experimenting brings out the best in the Eikonas. You chaps have been an inspiration to me in the past so I hope it all works out.
Since then I've built DCR's using twin Eikonas and are now on a pair of 4 aside transmission lines. To be honest I don't recognise your description of the sound which you seem to be disappointed in. I've also built Frugalhorns and XL's. As good as they are I think the Eikonas are well worth the extra money over the Alpairs. Let's hope your running in and further experimenting brings out the best in the Eikonas. You chaps have been an inspiration to me in the past so I hope it all works out.
Yes, we need to give them a very carefully considered assessment and perhaps empanel a small listening group of trusted and experienced ears.
